Another reply to Mu'een Ud Deen

Submitted by No Dhimmi (United States), Dec 20, 2005 at 09:49

I do agree that Taqdeer exists as a concept in Islam. However, a theological dilemna exists when taken in light of the Islamic view of predestination. Allah ordains everything and has created those destined for heaven and those destined for hell. This is taken directly from the Qur'an. Furthermore, you really can't say that Allah has given us the perogative to chose our own path because of the aforementioned statement AND that there is no true way of knowing if you will go to paradise with the exception of dying a shaheed.

My reference to the killing of women, children, old men, and monks is NOT an innovation as you allude to. Again, please refer to Keller's "Reliance on the Traveler" as a source of this. It IS sharia. This source IS recognized as authentic by Al-Azhar University. It is under the section on Jihad. There is also the sanction of using violence as a means to spread Islam. Violence is not only justified as self-defense.

I need to use your own words in my reply here. You said " in my opinion you can't blame terrorists for this tragic incident that killed many innocent people, because the whole duniyah (world) is to blame. I personally believe that 9/11 happenned because the international community was ignoring the injustice on the account of Muslims; for example the raping, mascacre and torturing of Muslims in Bosnia (What was the world doing, when that happened - everyone ignored it). The situation is Israel and Palastine, why was the world turning a blind eye, and the issue of the killing (the media condemned the chechnyans) but what about when they were being killed and massacred because Russia felt like conquering them."

1. The whole world did not ignore what was happening to muslims in Bosnia. For your information, it was the United States that bombed Slobodan Milosivic into submission to stop further killing of muslims. It was the US that brokered a peace treaty because of this.

Might I add, it was the United States that went into Somalia because of the famine that a muslim warlord was exploiting. United States soldiers died to stop this person.

2. The Palestinian/Isreali issue has not been ignored by the media. Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya as well as European outlets consistently report on it. Both sides have blood on their hands. Arab(Muslim) countries have been ignoring the Palestinians for years. The Palestinians are a pawn they use to justify their Anti-Semitism. Oh yes, the Qur'an is very explicit about it's anti-semitism i.e. Jews are the decendents of monkeys and pigs.

3. The leader of Al-Qaeda, Ossama bin Laden, has claimed responsibility for 9/11 (unfortunately there are still muslims who fail to believe this but buy into the sick conspiracy theories peddled througout the Middle East and South Asia). He does site injustices in the Middle East. He also states he sees the West and particularly the United States as the main obstacles to Islam dominating the world, the return of the Caliphate, and the world governed by Sharia. You can have your opinions about the cause of 9/11 but you can't deny statements made by him.

Let's be perfectly clear here. There will continue to be animosity and violence between muslims and non-muslims as long as muslims believe that they have the right to spread islam whether through persuasion or violence as Sharia dictates or the imposition of Sharia on non-muslims i.e. Nigeria nd Sudan or treating non-muslims as dhimmis i.e. second-class citizens. Furthermore, non-muslims do not want to be governed by islamic law; I for one do not, and the more muslims continue to push for this, the more we will push back.

No dhimmi

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