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Submitted by Debanjan Banerjee (India), Sep 28, 2011 at 10:54

1. Death cultures: Katyushka rockets into Israel; are they for moral support of the Gazans, or to exterminate Israel?

My Answer : F-16s, drones , total blockade on importing medicines and other needed staff leading to the death of innocent children and sometimes leading miscourage for pregnant Palestinian mothers , I wonder where are they for ? Just get a comparison chart of how many innocent Palestinians have been killed by Israel in last decade compared to how many Israelis have been killed , if you can honestly count. Moral support for Israelis or showing to the Palestinians that Israel will stoop to anything to bring them to their knees and in destroying their hopes of peace.

2. American democracy: cannot be exported anywhere-requires in belief in fundamentals embraced in few places around the world, but especially not embraced where the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not honored. The two cannot be severed without consequences.

My Answer : The religious aspect of American democracy can never be ruled out. What I just want to point out is that this is exactly what people like John Winthrop had in mind. This religious mindset of "chosenness" which was influenced heavily by Calvinism and the Scottish followers of Calvin was and still is responsible for the concept of Americans considering them as an exceptional nation. This is a fact.

Now if you want other nations particularly the Muslims to follow suit then they need to come up with something of a sense of mission where they are the "chosen ones" to deliver this world. Then they need to embark upon a journey for land in the West as your founding father ancestors did. Though I believe you do not want the Muslims to repeat the actions that your "chosen" founding fathers did to the native Americans , right ???

3." I think making the explanation of the differences amongst Israel-Jewish, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain-not Jewish- was self explanatory enough-make of it what you will- it will not change the outcome of those trying to redefine differences in the circumstances approaching the world soon."

My Answer : In the real world of West Asia politics the sectarian diffrences do not count. Otherwise how do you expect a democratic nation like the US to befriend a tyrannical regime like the Saudis and consider the democratic Islamic republic of Iran as enemies is beyond my understanding. I wonder how many Christians willing to support Israel have ever observed this fact ? In the real world only interests count and nothing else. At this point of history , the interests of Israel , Saudi Arabia and Bahrain , America match so they can be considered as friends and equals.

5. That's a new twist. If and when (never, most likely) Iranian President Ahmadinejad says he wants to learn anything from America is when a Constitutional America will be negated as a world power and the world is breathing down Israel's barrel ready to be extinguished.

My Answer : Ok , this is the fellow who just released 2 American hikers who illegally went into Iran to spy on the Iranians. So before you want to say anything against President Ahmedinajad count the number of prisoners America and Isreal are holding in Abu Gharib , Guantanamo Bay and numerous Isreali jails for being Muslims and opposing American and Israeli exceptionalism ?

"There is in this late time and date, only one thing to share that will make any difference in an individual's life-the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Recognize one's sin (your sin), in prayer ask Jesus Christ's forgiveness and receive His gift of the cross; His sacrificial death and resurrection for the remission of your sins (as I did mine) and receive the gift of eternal life."

My Answer : I am ready to convert to your view of God if you can prove to me that he is a just GOD. If he is a just GOD then what should happen to those of his believers on the judgment day

1. Those who believe in your GOD and at the same time declare illegal wars and kill innocent millions.

2. Those who poison the oceans and make many innocents homeless in your own country through financial trickery and embezzlement.

3. Those who intentionally create and then the rules of International engagement that are intended to justify and maintain their hegemony.

4. Those who create massacres of innocents in Judea and Samaria (of Cannanites , Moabites and American Indians) and involve the name of true GOD in it.

Until and unless you answer that those people are going to burn in hell on the judgment day , I will not consider the interpretation of GOD that you give as just GOD and thereby will base my judgement for conversion based upon your judgment.

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