The most important dates in human history 490 B.C., A.D. 717, A.D. 732

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Oct 4, 2011 at 15:32

Debanjan Banerjee wrote :

> What I am trying to tell you here is that the wanton destruction of cities of the East is an essential part of Western civilization. You are missing the bigger point. The west in order to achieve her geopolitical aims have always chosen to destroy what is considers "others" and "barbarians" Whether it is troy , Carthage , ctesiphon from the ancient times or Jerusalem , Constantinopole (the sack of constantinopole by the Latin crusaders) from the middle ages to the destruction and colonialization of the native Americans , the Phiippinos and numerous Asian and African nations to Hiroshima , Vietnam , Baghdad or Abu gharib and Guantanaomo bay this has the same pattern ever since.<

Now what I was trying to say was to show to you that 1/ you shouldn't start a topic you are ignorant about; 2/ you should be more humble and at least try to learn the facts that are there to learn; 3/ you should change your naive interpretations so as to be able to explain new facts that undermine your previous false interpretation (although I realize it is impossible for a Moslem ); 4/ you should avoid presupposing that your opponents or potential readers are equally ignorant of the subject matter as you and 5/ you mustn't draw any conclusions tacitly taking advantage of the ignorance of facts and events.

Now the big point you make is false too. I repeat if you have such a short memory that it was Carthage with Hannibal that had invaded Italy in order to destroy Rome in the Second Punic war and the Romans had every reason to assure their survival after the trauma of Cannae and the ravages of Hannibal's army in Latium and elsewhere. Note also that during the reforms of the Gracchi bothers Carthage was rebuilt and resettled. Note also that almost all cities and towns that the Moslems are now invading and colonizing in Western Europe were founded by the Romans or were modelled on Roman cities.

And historically barbarity is no invention or fiction as you cynically imply. It's always been a harsh reality of war for survival between civilization and barbarity. Just in case of Rome note e.g. habitual Phoenician human sacrifices or a state of permanent warfare among the Gauls before the Romans imposed peace and a higher culture on them - cities with aqueducts and stadiums, civil service, roads, public security, rational legal system, Roman villas, classical art, sculpture, Roman and Hellenic literature etc. etc. I know these are all an anathema (jakhilya" -"the age of stupidity") for a Moslem like you. But for a kafir like me this is all I find life worth living for. I don't want to live in your Moslem slums, among the fllth of Oriental cities, in Moslem tyrannies with a degenerate caliph and vesirs, among primitive imams and jihadist thugs, with your notorious Moslem slave markets and the nastiest thing of all with shariah and its savagery and primitivism regulating and controlling all I do, think and feel. In short I hate civilizational regress Islam is all about and I hate losing my freedom on behalf of the pernicious Oriental anti-utopia you are trying to impose upon me, my culture and my nation.

You would realize that the examples you have given above were all wrong if you had detailed knowledge of history. Propaganda you are representing is not grounded in facts and historical realities. Just think about the battle of Marathon in 490 B.C where a brave Greek phalanx saved us from being engulfed by the Oriental Persian tyranny and its barbarity. Think also of Poitiers in A.D. 732 or Constantinople in A.D. 717. These are the most important dates in human history. And I won't tell you why because I consider you to be my mortal enemy who wants to revert them , to kill my memory, to destroy my identity , to exterminate my culture, to make me spit on my ancestors and all they loved and lived for , to enslave me with your evil death cult called Islam !

> My question to you is that how do you gather logic to crticise Turks who are probably one of the most sophisticated and cultures races from East ever to play their role in the history of mankind when your own Western civilization does nothing but spreading lie , hunger , destruction and violence for its own sake.<

Well, contemplate again the Skull Tower of Nis/Serbia, the heaps of skulls in Otranto/Italy or in Batak/Bulgaria or the ancient relics of the dervish tekke of Tempe/Greece and then keep fooling yourself with "Turks" as "probably one of the most sophisticated and cultures races from East ever to play their role in the history of mankind"! That history doesn't exist for you except as an inferior slave and tool to promote your dysfunctional religion invented by an illiterate and immoral Arab Beduin to instil and perpetuate his own personality cult is quite clear to me. But imagine that I have learnt my lesson of history and won't forget it in exchange for some primitive regressive Oriental death cult and its absurdities.

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