Again you contradict yourself

Submitted by Peter Hall (Australia), Dec 22, 2011 at 20:28

You try and hide and deflect when you say

The expansion of Islam does not prove Arabic a strong language.

you said

Again - adding 2 and 2 to get 7. You didn't even understand what I said.... or deceitfully present more of your ignorant bias.

I understood exactly what you said Amin, but you do not like the fact that most Muslims neither read nor understand Arabic, and they only memorise the Koran without understanding it, is that not a fact?

So how does this show Arabic is a strong language? How does the High Muslim birth rates equate to Language? Do you not understand you own lame arguments?

You ask for proof that Muslims and Arabic speakers make up the bulk of refugees and asylum seekers?

you said

The mass migration of Arabic speaking peoples to the west is proof of they failure of Arabic and Muslim societies to provide a standard of living for its peoples.

Mass migration? Again making BASELESS arguments.... have you got figures?

As of December 31, 2005, the largest source countries of refugees are Afghanistan, Iraq, Myanmar, Somalia, South Sudan, and the Palestinian Territories.^{[citation needed]} The country with the largest number of IDPs is South Sudan, with over 5 million. As of 2006, with 800,000 refugees and IDPs, Azerbaijan had the highest per capita IDP population in the world.^[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee

Again you ask for proof, I give you proof. Any fool would know this information, you show you devious nature by asking for proof of what is commonly known to try and dodge the issues again. So when was the last time a boatload of English tries to seek asylum in Lebanon? When did the last group of Americans try and seek into Saudi Arabia? When did the last group of Australians wash up on the shores of Afghanistan? When did the last boat load of Italians wash up on the shores of Algeria?

You keep saying baseless and no evidence, are you really that stupid, or just trying to annoy people.

You said in response to my comment

The uncontrolled population growth of North Africa and the Middle East is nothing to be proud of Amin, when the whole Arabic world resembles Somalia, who will be laughing then? I guess you have already fled the backward Arabic world, but you still cling to the illusions.

There we have it - I told you from start you are speaking from IGNROANCE and HATE. And the above is evidence.

Now again, you use the words ignorance and hate? Now why is it ignorant for me to say the high population rates in the Middle East and North Africa is nothing to be proud of?

The Middle East and North Africa do heavily rely on oil to buy food for its populations, did you not know that? Did you not know that the Middle east and North Africa cannot feed its populations and needs to import food?

Do you not know that North Africa and the Middle East do not have an efficient or productive primary production industry? Or secondary Industry?

Did you not know that the reason why so many young males flees these areas, is there are no economic opportunities?

So who is the ignorant one here Amin? You are the one who seems to have no knowledge? Or do I have to do the same dance to show you what any 5 yo already knows?

I do not claim to be a linguist, I never have, If you want to discuss Chemical Engineering, I will happily oblige, but if you as a claimed a linguist unable to present any qantitative evidence in your chosen field to refute an amateur, you would have no hope in other areas.

You said

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - I laugh and laugh .. . Is this a sane logical argument. I bet you have not read ten books this past year... you English is poor - your arguments are even worse. THey are right down idiotic and senseless.

Now here you go again, is this your understanding of proper English? No !, No ? ? THey, What is THey

Now what does you sentence show? You clearly have no idea about grammar or punctuation!

Now I would not usually be so petty, but since you are being petty to try and prop up your weak arguments, I am the one who is laughing at your attempt to correct my English using ever poorer English, now that IS FUNNY!

You claim

You keep repeating your views over and over and then you lie over and over to protect them. I have EXPOSED you thoroughly and completely ..... When has that been my defense. That is precisely the reason I gave you and asked of you views and works of Western Scholars - and you lied over that as well.

I have answered this many times Amin, but your inability to understand means I have to repeat myself many times. What Scholars say about their own fields is prejudiced. That is the point of this whole article.

BY THE WAY AMIN, DEFENCE not defense, another example of your superior English Amin? You arrogant fool !

You talk about how complex Arabic is, SO WHAT? You talk about how Western Scholars study it, so?

You say in the title of your response

Do Palaeontologists think Dinosaurs backwards?

Of Course they do, Amin !! Dinosaurs are extinct, they could not adapt to a changing environment, like Arabic.

Palaeontologists may love Dinosaurs, they think they are interesting and important to study, they investigate how they lived and WHY THEY BECAME EXTINCT.

It is a legitimate areas of study, the same as Arabic is. But that does not mean it is a strong language when it has so many flaws. Language is a tool, not Arabic when anybody looks at how it copes in the modern world can see it does not cope well.The world is not astounded by Arabic Literature, only a few western Scholars and a few Educated Arabs bother to read it, That is a fact. Otherwise show me the number of editions of Arabic literature sold each year that proves me wrong!!

Its fails on every measure as a weak language in its application to the use in the modern world. I do not need to be an expert to know that a Beta max cassette is not as good as a CD. The persons who collects Beta max tapes and those that invented and manufactured it think it was great, but the consumers of the world did not agree. The world has moved on Amin and Arabic is as outdated as your opinion.

I have shown the consumers do not like or use Arabic when better alternatives are available.

Now I do agree that my English has not been perfect here by any means, partly due to the fact that I am typing on a phone with a tiny keypad, so I apologise to the readers here for my typos, and some of my errors are been me being lazy in my typing here. However, I find it arrogant of you Amin in the extreme to assume you have a better command of English than I do, especially when your comments are full of errors as well.

I also find it very funny, that a claimed linguist, who is responding to an admitted Amateur in the field of Arabic, seems to gain virtually no endorsement by their fellow readers, yet my comments seem to get a degree of support?

You lack of critical thinking also is betrayed in saying you believe I probably have not read 10 books in the last year? Now I would interpret a reader being able to contribute and comment in an areas outside of their expertise, as I have; to be indicative of someone who does read widely and feels confident in expressing their own views.

If we were discussing Engineering or Chemistry, I would be very comfortable in being able to dismiss any comments by you with ease, unless of course by some miracle you were right for once !

What do you have to say in your defense, opps that is a Amin spelling, defence? Are you going to go off on another tangent Amin? Are you going to be petty to avoid the big questions? Or would you like to discuss the effects of cooling rates in the formation crystallisation matrix of nanocrytalline alloys?

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