Oh the Irony and Other Observations

Submitted by BB King (United States), Jan 10, 2012 at 01:18

Ianus, at least come to this agreement. Please tell me that you find the irony hilarious.

I gave you a site, the title of which is: Jesus Never Existed. Many times on this very thread I have told you that I am atheist. Yet you quoted Jesus in order to defend yourself, counter my assertions and persuade me to see your viewpoint. ROTL LOL! I don't care what your imaginary friend says. Please keep your delusions as Richard Dawkins likes to call it, to yourself do not infect me with it.

But on a more serious note you're using the Tu quoque fallacy. No nation in the history of the world has clean hands. This is because nations are social constructs i.e., human creations and human beings are fallible, greedy, murderous and inherently evil. Only the law restrains our darkest passions, which we no doubt exhibited in the jungle until one day as Thomas Hobbes said and I paraphrase we found out that: life in the jungle is nasty, brutish and short.

<"Anyway, how many Tatar "national heroes" fought in the Polish army at the gates of Vienna in 1683 or during our earlier Polish-Turkish wars?">

This source claims: "The Lipkas (tartars) fought in 1683 under King John III at Vienna, and their merits were recognised and rewarded at the 1684 Diet."

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/ntstar/history.htm

Click on origin and history of Lipka tartars.

It also lists other wars the tartars fought for the Poles.

If you don't wish to refute the entire site but all means don't. I for one wouldn't want to impose such as Herculean task on you. You have a life no doubt and other business to take care of.

However, since you assert that the authors of the particular webpage I cited and here it is again http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/baghdad-summer.html were not fully telling the truth about history and Islam, then you should counter their claims with evidence and facts. You did not provide counter-evidence, just your words not backed up by links, books, and other forms of documentation.

Don't subscribe to anything it says if your heart contends but tell me with empirical evidence why you feel that the authors of this site were wrong about Hellenism and Islam.

here . In this 1889 edition the page is 396-397. In case you don't believe I translated it correctly,I encourage you to consult any other person who can read German.>

I know no one who speaks German. Give me an English source. If your source is historical then no doubt it will be reported by other historians. Or are you claiming that only the historian of this book has a monopoly on the truth?

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