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helping other nations liberate themselves is always an opportunity, but Obama is not a liberator

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Submitted by Cyrus (United States), Jun 14, 2012 at 19:14

Helping other nations liberate themselves is always a good cause and opportunity for the leader of the free world, however, the Obama administration does not have the moral commitment to impose (or even advocate) a system of government based on American values, the way America imposed its values on the post-WWII Japan and Germany that transformed 2 of the most hostile & totalitarian nations into natural allies, stable democracies and world leading economies.

I think the US should delay the collapse of Assad, but shortly after the inevitable collapse aid the opposition and take credit for the liberation. I also it would be a great opportunity for Israel to help slowly shift the Arab public opinion if it can act as a liberating force at some point, specially the Kurdish members of the FSA would easily get along with Israel.

I agree, the longer Assad stays in power, the more the Muslim world realize the real oppressors of the Muslims,: their own dictators, but also the longer a secular dictator survives, the more the opposition turn to Islamic radicalism, we should learn from the post Soviet-Afghanistan. The radical forces helped push the Soviets out of the country and once the Soviets were gone, the west fully abandoned them leaving the power vacuum that left the country in decades of civil war until the AQ's proxy the Taliban, backed by Pakistan and Arab Wahhabis took over and the consequence of that was 9/11 and a never ending war. Had the 1979 Iran revolution prevented if Jimmy Carter didn't intentionally facilitate the Khomeinist take over, the Soviets wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan (the Shah had established a very smart strategic relations with the Soviets and other neighbors that kept them off borders and at the same time IRan under the Shah was Afghanistan's big brother and the Afghans were inspired by the westernized & secular Iran) post-Shah Iran encouraged the Soviets to open a path toward the Persian Gulf through Afghanistan, to stop the Soviets there Carter quietly allowed Islamist Pakistan to obtain nuclear weapons, one of the main reasons US can not do much about rise and sponsor of terrorism in Pakistan today.

So history can repeat itself, however since Syria has a long history of secularism, multi-culturalism and religious tolerance among both the Sunnies and Shiite civilians, I think the post-Assad Syria would be better than the post-Mubarak Egypt. I am also against uprooting Assad forces, the mistake made in the post-Saddam Iraq, they are already defecting and instead the west should come up with a policy of advocating a multi-ethnic system in the post-Assad Syria, a government formed by cooperation and coordination between the secular Alawites and the Sunnies, Kurds and Christians and a non-Sharia constitution, judicial and political system that protect individual rights and equality for all citizens regardless of religious or ethnic background, something similar to the Turkish model, however I disapprove the Turks anti-Kurdish policies and also the slight shift to Islamism (the Turkish system and constitution is still secular and I don't think it would ever become an Islamist state and also think it's much smarted if a westernized US ally Turkey plays the leadership role of the Sunnies and ME states instead of Saudis or Iran).

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Dr. Pipes-How is It That the Pin is Dropping in Syria and No One Will Hear it? [227 words]M. ToveyAug 9, 2012 13:54197774
1We should stay out of the Middle East!!! [30 words]Doug ReesJul 8, 2012 21:53197080
A bit of truth, anyone? [111 words]Simon SalosnyJul 8, 2012 00:45197063
Why Not the Whole Truth..... [224 words]M. ToveyJul 12, 2012 10:52197063
Why not the whole truth? [233 words]simonsonJul 12, 2012 20:43197063
Whole Truth-Seriously? [279 words]M. ToveyJul 13, 2012 18:31197063
Why not the whole truth? [420 words]simon salosnyJul 14, 2012 19:22197063
Whole Truth - Who in the Middle East is Seeking It - Indeed, Who in the Entire World? [892 words]M. ToveyJul 16, 2012 14:25197063
THE WHOLE TRUTH [256 words]simon salosnyJul 17, 2012 11:28197063
The World and Its Lack of Seeking the Whole Truth [1370 words]M. ToveyJul 19, 2012 16:13197063
Truth [464 words]simonsonJul 19, 2012 20:32197063
Truth Will Conquer All [375 words]M. ToveyJul 24, 2012 13:34197063
About the Christians in Syria [170 words]BoogiemanJul 6, 2012 02:11197030
Infidel disbelief [45 words]steveJul 2, 2012 13:13196893
1Solution [18 words]Dan SchnittkerJun 19, 2012 12:03196457
Who's unhappy about what's going on in Syria? [235 words]Waell MurrayJun 19, 2012 00:48196446
1The biggest reason to stay out of Syria [17 words]There is NO Santa ClausJun 18, 2012 20:56196442
Damned if you do, damned it you don't. [68 words]peter LegurJun 18, 2012 08:29196423
1Syria vs Sudan vs Libya [168 words]StasJun 17, 2012 21:13196416
We should stay away from all conflicts but one [128 words]Lujack SkylarkJul 2, 2012 20:50196416
2another point to consider [257 words]deeJun 15, 2012 14:41196377
1helping other nations liberate themselves is always an opportunity, but Obama is not a liberator [541 words]CyrusJun 14, 2012 19:14196357
Determining Appropriate Sources of Humanitarian Aid [502 words]M. ToveyJun 14, 2012 16:37196355
Syrian Christians [56 words]jgetsJun 14, 2012 16:33196354
2Yes but, [175 words]dannyboyJun 14, 2012 14:13196350
Syria and the great Islamic Schism [125 words]Paul JefferyJun 14, 2012 13:20196349
3The Somalization of The Islamic World? [550 words]Ron ThompsonJun 14, 2012 13:01196348
American Foreign Legion ... [231 words]ben hJun 14, 2012 12:54196347
I agree [125 words]stanley bJun 15, 2012 16:35196347
1Non-intervention by the US is the correct path [196 words]Carey PageJun 14, 2012 09:02196340
USA help with Muslim Obama? [129 words]simon salosnyJul 9, 2012 10:22196340
1The sword of Islam [17 words]Costas KalotarisJun 14, 2012 08:57196339
1Further Thoughts on Not Intervening in Syria [197 words]JudithJun 14, 2012 07:48196338
2Partition should be the goal [35 words]Gregory RodbanJun 14, 2012 07:20196337
2We have to think and think before we Act [100 words]Michael Hanni MorcosJun 14, 2012 23:54196337
Partition can never happen [109 words]saraJun 15, 2012 14:58196337
Syrian people [102 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
StasJun 14, 2012 02:03196333
1Isn't Western intervention how all the trouble started in the first place? [72 words]stanley bJun 9, 2012 22:30196188

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