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a rosecolored rerun of the oranges nostalgia

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Submitted by myth (Germany), Feb 9, 2016 at 07:41

Obama's rose colored account of islamic activities is a rerun of the oranges nostalgia account of the Nazi era.

My grandfathers and others sometimes illustrated the point that in their memory not all in Nazi Germany was all bad. They recalled how they still had oranges in economically hard times. Those oranges came exclusively from fascist Spain at the time. Fascism was alright so long as one had oranges.

Years later the oranges reappeared but from a different origin. People remembered the good old days of East Germany. While they admitted they did not have everything the West had, they did appreciate those oranges from communist Cuba. Socialism was alright so long as one had oranges.

It is probably out of this tradition that some ambitious sort-of-antisemites advocate a ban on oranges from the West-Bank, or even all of Israel.

Obama's boy scout tale falls directly into the Hitler-Youth category. Certainly, when people were poor they could still send their children to some vacation on the invitation of the Nazis. It was but years later that the indoctrination and the paramilitary character of those holidays would put them in uniform in the millions and send them to invade neighboring countries.

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