There are many differences about what people think the Bible means.

Submitted by Michael S (United States), Jul 25, 2016 at 04:37

Hi, Tovey

We have to be careful, that our discussions don't get too esoteric. I like to post pertinent scriptures, in their context, because readers can then read the original and judge for themselves. When we get into some of the pet, modern Evangelical doctrines you cite, it's like seeing two Jews argue about whether beans and rice should be considered "matzoh" for Passover purposes.

Concerning "America in the Bible", you are correct -- there are no scriptural references. If one wants to see how we fit in to prophecy, therefore, we need to look at secondary factors. The same goes for Russia. Just as a curiosity, both Russia and America

1. did not exist as political entities during the time of most of the prophets. They were wild places, inhabited by people of a lower social and political order from the peoples of the Bible. Both alike, then, might be thought to represent the "wilderness" mentioned in Revelation:

12: [6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

12: [14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

17: [3] So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

2. One might also note that both Russia and the US have been principal places of exile for the Jewish people. This gives both places a kinship with Babylon of Ezekiel's day.

3. Both Russia and the US also are descended from the Roman Empire of John's day, making them candidates to be part of the "beast"

Considering the above, I am not surprised to see some interpreters ascribing to Russia things I might ascribe to the US, and visa versa.

You also mentioned "The removal of the Church of Yeshua", referring to the "Rapture" doctrine of Hal Lindsey and others. I do not find a solid basis for this doctrine, and neither have most interpreters for thousands of years.

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