|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The islamic comedy big timeReader comment on item: The Temple Mount's Indian Counterpart Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 28, 2010 at 20:31 For the readers anyone interested in reviewing all the extant literary sources (be it coins, epigraphy, monuments, papyri, ostraca, codices etc...) available about Arabia you will find it in the great work of Hoyland 1. In regard to ALL the extant (a word that our dear Deb does not even know what it means) sources about pre-islamic Arabia then check Arabia and the Arabs from the bronze age to the coming of Islam" Robert G. Hoyland Published by Routledge, 2001 And this is must reading for islamic history 101. Oh any literary sources from the Hijaz? Not a thing because Mecca is a literary creation of the 3rd century of islam 2. And this is what is called Hoyland survey "Seeing Islam as other saw it A Survey and evaluation of Christian Jewish and Zoroastrian writings on early islam" by Robert G. Hoyland published by Darwin Press 1997 This is a must reading for a student of early islam and for all the extant literary sources by islamic sources (see pages 687-703) he divides them into 1. Dated writings before 72AH or 691CE (Oh darn it I must be a Zionist!) and he selects the year 72 as it is the yaer when the name Muhammad does not appear in the literary sources before the year 72AH/691CE 2. Dated writings of 72-135AH or 691-752CE or the end of the Umayyads And you know what? There is no Qur'an and no hadith and no sira and nothing Now go and read them before you make a fool of yourself as you always do >I think you are puzzled to know that I , a wannabee Arab know more about your crusades than you , No I'm puzzled about your ignorance and your poor education and the fact that you just do not get it No you do not. Your comments about the Crsusaders and cannabilism is more evidence that your knowledge of basic history 101 is very defective but again why should i be surpised as you believe that an Arabian warlord and caravan raider spoke to an Arabian deity via an angel and if so i can see believeing just about any cockamamie idea >right. I am going to tear into you now. And it is going to be bad for you baby. Delusions right? >And your categorization of Arabs the barbarians are completely false and inaccurate. A barbarian is anyone who invades and enslaves and kills 90M innocent Hindus now do you get it and the Arabs were barbarians >My Answer : Your founding fathers also annihilated millions of native Americans (maybe around 120M) Really? but wait: Your Allah says that this life is all about al-qada' wa al-qadr right our dear Deb al-tablighee? then if anyone is to be blamed for the death of our al-hunuud al-homr then it must be Allah! So how can we get in touch with your Allah and may be we can do lunch and you can tell him that you disagree with his little al-qada' wa al-qadr thing! You know what will happen? there will be no 72 vrigins or even boys for you. Oh do not panic I will do the talking the poor guy does not know any mangled Arabic or Urdu But a tablighee who is worried about our native people? But you see our dear Deb charity starts at home right ? >to create what you call USA. So by your own definition your founding fathers i.e. (Ben Frank, Tom Jeffey , Georgey Wash) are all barbarians. Hahahaha, I could not castgate Americans like you did , dammit. Well we have established that if they were barbarians then we must blame Allah and may be we can ask him to un-barbarian them you think he can do that? So? But wait are they our al-khulafa' al-rashiduun? >Very distinguished crusader chroniclers like the following ones assert the fact that the crusaders practised canibalism.Radulph of Caen, an eyewitness to events at Ma'arra in 1098, wrote, "In Ma'arra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking-pots; they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled." A tablighee who is concerned about the victims of the crusaders sobhanallah >My Answer : I accept that no answer. Let me repeat it a tablighee who cares about the victims of the Crusaders but not about his own Hindu ancestors and oh and stay tuned for cannibalism The Crusaders did not invade any land. They were threatened and the holy land was threatened by the Arabs from all directions they fought the war for survival against these barbarians the Arabs" My ANswer : Ohh and what proof do you have nut ? Are you going to bring those non-existent historians like Puin and Hoyland ? >Now you have Hoyland work and you either put up or sdhut up You see our dear Deb Kuffar do not BS like you But wait: Your masters the Arabs? they enslaved all sorts of people and they raped and collected the shameful jizya and Allah is supposed to get 1/5 of the loot and destroyed great civilizations right? >My ANswer : Ohh name me one civilization that the Muslims destroyed.. Let us go straigh to India where 90M of your ancestors were killed right? >You cannot since they did not destroy any. Delusions >All the countries you mention Egypt , Iran and Syria and others are surviving and flourishing even in 2010. So you are a lier when you say Muslims destroyed civilizations. Hypocrite >Hey I forgot to mention what about the native Americans , the Incas and the Aztecs ? Your cannibalistic European predecessors destroyed them , right ? Oh well let me see should we add the Aztecs and the Incas to the list of your Allah's little evil al-qada' wa al-qadr? what do you think? >Now compared this to what Saladin did. He showed mercy even to these crusaders by granting a general amnesty after he has liberated Jerusalem from these vile people. Salah el-deen the Kurd who is another wannabe Arab and whose ancestors were enslaved and brutalized by the Arabs did not care about the sufferings of Muslims until the crusaders started to attack the caravans of the Arabs in-order to collect loot! >My Answer : An armchair slut like you A slut is some one who sells his soul and his own people to the cause of Arabian imperialism and it is you >cannot even think about the glories of Salahdin. You must acknlwdege that even King Richard of England sang praises for the glories of Saladin. Salah el-deen astaghfirullah was as your masters the Arabs would call him a khawal! Oh khawal? It is just as bad as Naik. You see he liked boys >Have you American Sluts ever produced a man like Saladin ? Oh a slut is some one who sells his soul to be a follower of the arabs and their imperialism right our dear deb? The Crusaders did not invade any land. They were threatened and the holy land was threatened by the Arabs from all directions they fought the war for survival against these barbarians the Arabs">My Answer : Ohh you slime. The "slime" is you > Have you ever bothered to know what constitutes a holy land ? The Muslims were already ruling the holy land and the holy land were prospering under the Muslim rule. What proof do you have that holy land were threatened by Muslims ? Really? then who invaded palestine from al-Hijaz? >Another point what is the extant evidence Hint: Dictionary and History 101 >that Gerd Puin and Hoyland are real men and not fictions ? Anything is possible >Ahh give me a good answer , baby and make my day. I urge you to get a grip on reality and revert to the religion of your ancestors and stop being a follower of the Arabs and their imeprialism they do not care about you ... Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (176) on this item
|
Latest Articles |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes (The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code. Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998. For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.) |