Easter in the Qur'an and our dear deb part deux

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 19, 2010 at 06:48

Did you understand a single word of what I wrote? ...

>Easter is a completely western concept which has got nothing to do with even eastern versions of Christianity let alone Quran.

Really? Christians in the Middle East be it Copts, Melkites, Armenians, Maronites, Greek Orthodox, Greek Catholics, Chaldeans celebrate what they call 3eed el-qiyama aka Easter so stick to Urdu our dear Deb al-tablighee and even Muslim Arabs call it 3eed al-qiyama

How come you did not know that?

As for the Qur'an you did not understand a single word of what i wrote right? Could it be because you do not know any Arabic or Syriac right? But you have the guts to respond!

>Easter was invented by Western Christians to convert gullible people like you.

Oh and Mawlid al-nabi was invented by some of your masters the Arabs where everyone gets high on sugar and celebrate yum milad abul Qasim aka Muhammad? A character that more likely than not never existed? ... So do you celebrate the birthday of your so called prophet and what do you do? do you have a little cake and a little chmapagne? Oh let me see Abul Qasim aka Muhammad loved honey and it got him as per Ibn Kathir in trouble is surat al-tahreem remember? Oh Champagne it is haram! Darn it and who says that there is fun in islam

But wait: If you do celebrate Abul Qasim's little birthday the you are a kafir as per Ibn Taymiyya

So which one is it? Do you celebrate Abul Qasim's birthday or not?

>Now as per as the verses regarding the deceiving capabilities of Allah is concerned that ayat

ROTFL Paki Arabic mr ignorant the plural of a verse in Arabic is ayat and the singular is aya with no Paki H at the end. Do us a favor and stick to Urdu

>came in a different context than of Jesus Christ (PBUH).

I thought in Paki Arabic his name is Hazrat 3Issa right? but now you know better

Mr demagogue spare us this context thing as Allah describes himself as makkar so is he makkar sometimes and not makkar some other times. A makkar is a makkar period

And was he not rahman wa raheem when your own ancestors were brutalized by Islam and by Muslims?

>Now when you yourself quote Quran Chapter 72. verse 20It is clear that Jesus is not Allah since why Jesus would call upon Allah and associate no one else with him if not Jesus himself in nothing but a servant of Allah !!!

Sure but Allah aka Jesus can pretend to say anything he wants to say rememeber this is what a makkar does

For the readers: This comment by our dear deb is a clear indication that he did not understand a word of what i wrote. The Qur'an in the story of Easter is no more than old pre-Nicene Syro-Arabic Christianity where Jesus is regarded as a great Rabbi and a great teacher (see The Gospel of Thomas extant in Coptic) and the story fits very well with what we have in the canonical gospels. So what happened to Christian Arabs? well Mu3awiyya and the Umayyads were Christian and when they lost to the 3Abbassids in 750CE they were forced to convert to what was at that time emerging Islam but the ultimate revenge against Islam is that they brought with them their brand of pre-Nicene Syro-Arabic Christianity Easter and all and it is all in the Qur'an and it is as follows

1. Q4157 is an allusion to his crucifiction

2. Q72:19 the Qur'an is saying that Jesus was indeed resurrected

3. Q4:158 tells about Jesus ascension

Et viola we have Easter in the Qur'an

And I'm not the author of this poor theology

>Congratulations for coming to this realization that Jesus is not Allah but only as a servant of him.

Well let us see Jesus aka Allah is makkar remember? So he can pretend to be 3abd allah when he is really Allah

Then congratulations our dear deb who is not very original but it seems that the Qur'an says that Jesus is your Allah

See? I'm not the author of this poor theology

>In another quote when Quran refers to Jesus as Issa ibn-Maryam , it is clear that Jesus was a child of Maram i.e. he was born of Maryam.

Sure

>Now remember my first point. If a person wants to be considered as Allah then he should not be born nor should he die.

Hello: how many times do I have to tell you

1. Allah aka Jesus is makkar

2. Allah deceived those that wanted to kill Jesus and he put his like on the cross right? These are not my words

3. Your Allah is supposed to be full of logic right

4. Virgin birth is illogical right?

5. And to paraphrase what the Qur'an says that when he was born Allah al-makkar placed his like and if he can do it at his crucifiction he can do it at his birth right ?

Then congratulations our dear Deb but Jesus was not really born

>Since Maryam's name is associated with Jesus as the one who brought Jesus to this world thereby Jesus is nothing but a servant of Allah and a prophet.

Oh the funny Islamic Trinity so is the Trinity Allah, Mary and Jesus our dear deb?

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