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our dear deb and on being a munafiq kabeerReader comment on item: The Temple Mount's Indian Counterpart Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 16, 2010 at 07:33 Our dear Deb is back for a little chit chat and who is not horrified about the hindu genocide Our dear deb charity starts at home mr fake And where is your evidence that 120M native Americans were killed? Hard and solid evience. You think that I forgot? "We do not celebrate the lives of those that committed atrocities against our native population" >My Answer : Incorrect. My dear DNM you should know that you people still sing praises for the man Tom Jeffy Tom Jeffy? ROTFL Is this why we have now Jiffy Lube? sobanallah. So we call him Jiffy? really? or is this tablighee BS? For the readers: tablighees like to invent and use nick names for reasons unkown to me >(Thomas Jefferson) , who personally encouraged the taking over of native American lands and forcible conversion of the native Americans to the American way. The following is Tom Jeffy's own remarks :"The plan of civilizing the Indians is undoubtedly a great improvement on the ancient and totally ineffectual one of beginning with religious missionaries. Our experience has shown that this must be the last step of the process. The following is what has been successful: 1st, to raise cattle, etc., and thereby acquire a knowledge of the value of property; 2d, arithmetic, to calculate that value; 3d, writing, to keep accounts, and here they begin to enclose farms, and the men labor, the women spin and weave; 4th, to read Aseop's Fables and Robinson Crusoe are their first delight. The Creeks and the Cherokees are advanced thus far, and the Cherokees are now instituting a regular government. "(As cited in Mayo,1972) Oh our dear Deb and "argument from kuffar"!! Mr demagogue where would I find in the above quote that Jiffy (sic) had a plan for killing our native people? Your claim is ridiculous Jiffey(sic) as you call him was interested in "converting" the native people of this land into the white way of living and owning land by individuals. He could not understand that the collective ownership of land by the native people was a valid way too. I'm not aware of him advocating the killing in a systematic way of "indians" and you know what? this was a mistake and a big one. And let me repeat it no one in this country celebrate the lives of those that killed the native people we even have people here in the US that believe that this was indeed a genocide but we do not put them in jail or declare them as kuffar You? your Allah tells us that you muslims should kill the polytheists and this is why 90M of your own ancetors were killed in cold blood We changed for the better. This nasty stuff about killing polytheists is still in the book of your Allah! You think it should be deleted what do you think? >Now tell me what right did Thomas Jefferson have to change the lifestyle of the native Americans ? Mr demagogue: the real question is was anyone able to change the way our native people live? what do you think? So you tell me: what right did the likes of Mahmud of Ghazni have to change the lifestyle of your won ancestors and convert them to wannabe Arabs like you? You are the last one to lecture us about anything >Also you still celebrate the biggest mass murderers in Truman and McArthur. These are the terrorists who are responsible the atrocities in Hiroshima and Dresden.Tell me why your historians like that Victor Davis Hanson sing praises for those murderers Truman and McArthur ?That murderer Truman even had the nerve to call the genocide at Hiroshima as "an wonderful event"!!! What does this have to do with our native people? Stay focused For the readers: Our dear deb is in the habit of changing subjets and to throw names in the little chit chat >a President who lied and was responsible for the murder of thousands of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan. Wait: why are you switching subjects? We are talking about Vanunu right? >My Answer : Yes yes let us talk about Vanunu. I compared the treatment of Vanunu to your treatment of Bush. My question to you is if the West is law-abiding then why punish Vanunu who spoke a truth and reward Bush who lied while maintaining the office of the president. Hello: stay focused >Now I think Vanunu is innocent. You should also remember that Vanunu was kidnapped from his place in London and sent to Jail in Israel. Now which law-abiding country kidnaps her own citizens ? Then tell the people of israel that you and a tablighee who posts drivel does not like what happened to him and I can assure you they will listen I can assure you no one in Israel will issue a fatwa against you >I again urge you to be free of your anti-Islamic bias and judge the world with truth. Oh is this the islamophobia? OK and I urge you to be free of your anti-Hindu, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and anti-Buddhist bias and judge the world with the truth and stop your tablighee BS >"Sure we make mistakes but non of our mistakes can be attributed to a deity! " >My Answer : Absolutely wrong. First of all you call the genocide of millions Millions? I thought you told us it is 120M remember ? >as "mistakes". What kind of a heartless person you are !!! Yes we make mistakes and remember if we make mistakes then you can only blame Allah as this life is all about al-qada' wa al-qadr remember? so how can we get in touch with allah so we can ask him to un-mistake our mistakes? You? you come here and tell us that we still have lots of hindus left or 750M hindus still living and kicking which means that you have no regard for the sufferings of your own people! >Remember each and everyone of your atrocities were justified as "manifest destiny" and "God's will" by your leaders. Oh manifest destiny is your Allah's al-qada' wa al-qadr so do you have any difficulty with it and do you disagree with Allah? Your Allah says iqtoloo al-mushrikeen mr fake You see our dear deb al-munafiq al-kabeer charity starts at home >I ask you when you Americans are going to beg forgiveness to the descendants of the victims of the Atom bomb in Hiroshima ? And are you planning to beg forgivness to the decendants of the victims of the hindu genocide committed by your muslim masters? Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. 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