Is Allah reallyGod? it seems that according to our dear deb's criteria he is not! read and laugh

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 11, 2010 at 17:57

So what did we learn from our dear deb this time? Nothing not a thing

For the readers read and laugh

>First of all my question to you is what is the proof that the Rabbis in Medina would ask Prophet Mohammad questions through Greek logic 101 ?

And first os all this little gem is in the sira and you will find it on pages 572-573 and if you do not like the questions by the Jewish Rabbis then destroy your Islamic books and good riddance

>A Jew who considers rest of the world as goyim and inferior why would he use an inferior logic ?

Hello: It is in the sira and I challenge you to prove me wrong

>To me it sounds unnatural since a Jew can never use the Greek logic. This is like a communist using Capitalist logic to justify his worldview.

Hello: It is in sirat rasul allah warts and all

For the readers: when Muslims have nothing to say they go after the pesky Jews

So: If Allah created this creation then who really created your Allah? Any guesses? Oh let me see those pesky Jews were beyond your Allah and his rasul's logic right and you do not like it!

>So your question of whether prophet Mohammad was asked questions by Jewish logic is without any logical basis. So it tells me you are false.

Hello: this is from the sira

Did you read sirat rasul allah in ibn Hisham's redaction al-sira al-nabawiyya? Did you read in even in urdu? And how come you did not know about this funny story?

How come you did not know that? Could it be because that you are ignorant or could it be you really know about this little gem but you were hoping that we kuffar do not know? So which one is it?

>Now let me come to the four criterion regarding Allah :

Oh this should be fun

>1. You must not have any beginning or any end.To make it easy you shall not be born or you shall not die.My Answer :

Your are answering your own criteria ?

> You have only one point to refute here. You want to say that Allah deceived the common people in case of Jesus' virgin birth.

Sure Allah describes himself as the best makkar these are not my words these are your Allah's words

> My question to you is why ? Remember each and every Jewish rabbi at the time of Jesus knew that to be Messiah a person should never be born or die.

What does this have to do with the fact that according to your own criteria Allah cannot be a God and Jesus is God?

>So why should Allah fake the virgin birth

Well let me repeat it

1. Allah is full of logic right?

2. Virgin birth is illogical

3. Allah is makkar or he who decieves (these are not my words these are his words) and he is the one who tells us that because he is makkar or he who decieves he placed on the cross the likes of Jesus and he rafa3ahu ila al-sama' ie Jesus did not die which makes him a god as per your own criteria right our dear deb al-tablighee?

4. Then Allah must have placed his like at the time of his birth

Now do you get it?

So congratulaions our dear deb but Jesus has no begining which would make him god

See? Your worst enemy is not us kuffar as we only tell you what kutub al-turath al-islami tell us and if you do not like them then burn them and get rid of them and join us kuffar and be a free human being again

>when he knows that his messiah's divinity will be challenged by the Jewish rabbis because he was born ?

What does this have to do with the fact that Allah tells us that he is makkar?he can even yikhda3 the Jewish Rabbis of yikhda3 means decieves

>So your logic fails here.

Where?

>Since each and every person in this world comes to being through the womb of a woman he or she can never be God.

Sure and it can be a khid3a by a person who is makkar

Oh the Arabic? May be you can ask the moron Zakir Naik to tell you what it means

>Regarding the death of Jesus Quran says that Jesus did not die on the cross but no where Quran says that Jesus did not die afterwards.

Sure which means that he is god

Many westerners are saying now days that Jesus survived crucifixion , came to India , preached and died in Indian Kashmir.

Oh the argument from kuffar? We are talking about the book of your Allah here and after all those kuffar harafu their books so why do you quote kutub maharafa? And your Allah tells us that Allah that is rafa3ahu ila al-sama' which means that Jesus is residing in Allah's little heaven

Oh you think that i should tell al-wahabiyuun that you our dear Deb disagrees with their Allah and agree with a bunch of western infildes that say that jesus died? You will have a fatwat al-takfeer issued against you at the blink of an eye!

>So by Quran it is proven that since Jesus was born and died , he is not god ?

Really? where does it say in the Qur'an that jesus died?

>2. You must not be limited to any particular place in the earth , i.e. you should be able to move everywhere on the earth.My Answer : My condition is still present. Name a person who is present at all the times in the world at all the places and I will accept that. Remember if Jesus was seen only in ancient Palestine , if he was present all over the world why he was not sighted by Emperor Augustus in Rome ?

Hello: how do you know that he is not all over the place? Let me guess you have no clue about "the argument from silence" right? But again Greek logic is beyond you and beyond your Allah and his rasul

Mr ignorant: neither you nor I can prove or disporve this little cockamamie criterion but until then Jesus could very well be all over

This is basic Greek logic that is beyond you and beyond your Allah

Allah? We do not even know that he look like and until you and i can see him and do lunch with him he cannot be any place

>3. You must not be bound by anything that mortals feel bounded to .My Answer : I think Abu Hanbali

ROTFL Paki Arabic it is Ibn Hanbal and do us a favor and stick to Urdu

See? You must be an Arab to be able to even discuss Islam

>said it very well. Allah is so powerful that he is not even bounded by his own words i.e. Quran. Allah can do anything since he is not bounded by anything.

Talk is cheap so where is Allah? why is he shy you think he should show up at the soccer finals in South Afraic and over a microphone he can introduce himself? But you know what? This will not happen because there ain't no Allah

> If Jesus is god then why did he need to become a Jew why he did not be a Roman ? Why was he attached to Jewish soil ?

And why is Allah an Arab? Allah does not and did not know anything beyond Arabia right? he did not even know anything about your own ancestors

Or may be Jesus aka God loves falafel and humuus and taboule and this is why he elected Palestine

>4. You can not be compared to anything on heaven on earth. Allah is incomparable.My Answer : Allah is infinite ,

Where is your evidence? Hard and solid

> he is incomparable.

Where is your evidence hard and solid

Oh Jesus? Your Allah calls him ghulaman zakiyan or the incomprable jesus these are not my words

>Western theology can compare only those things which you can either touch , see , hear , speak of or fill with.

Oh argument from kuffar! Oh spare us this one. I'm not interested in western theology I'm after your Allah

> You can not sense or compare Allah since he is beyond human senses. To understand this point of view you must give up Western philosophies and accept Islamic theological viewpoints which say that Allah is beyond human imagination and understanding.

How could you say that when neither you nor i have seen him?

Oh I have really a bridge to sell you

>Let us face it you can not understand Allah through Western methodologies.

What methodologies? name one

>To even have a morsel of understanding about Allah you need to use Islamic philosophy. Are you open minded enough to try that ?

I read this as you have realized that as per your own criteria allah flunks big time

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