Helen: If beheading is not a punishment in Islam then it must be a form of sport.

Submitted by Plato (India), Aug 30, 2009 at 06:09

Helen, you wrote,

>>youre really not getting it....beheading is not allowed in islam as a form of punishment!<<

If beheading is not a form of punishment, what is it? Is it to terrorize people by beheading innocents as the Prophet did to the Quraiza men??

>>No im not saying muslims dont commit adultery there is good and bad in all religions and races.<<

Muslim men have it good. Your religion allows them to avoid adultery by contracting temporary marriages, misyar or muta.

>>What you should never do is judge a religion by the practice of some of its people...<<

We judge Islam not by the practice of some of its people by its most important ones like the Prophet and his Companions. The prophet married women whose husbands/family he had killed (Safia, Rayhana, Juwairia), he kept a slave girl as a concubine (Maria). He had his critics assassinated including old men and women.

>>…for example i would never judge a christian on the behaviour of the people of the crusades.<<

You can judge Islam by what the prophet and his closest companions did. Abu Bakr went to war to re-convert tribes that left Islam on the prophet's death. This tells you what kind of Muslims the prophet had managed to attract. Abu Bakr gave the countries he invaded three choices: submit to Islam, pay a humiliation tax, or face the sword (You can read about in Abu Bakr's biography brought out by Darrusalam publications, Leyton Business centre, London or 146 Park Road, London) . The crusades are a much later story.

You can judge Islam by what the Prophet and his Companions did. The Sword of Islam, Khalid bin Walid's atrocities are excused on the basis of what the prophet did. For instance his killing Maalik ibn Nuwairah and immediately marrying his wife, Umm Tameem, without waiting for the idda period is compared to the prophet marrying Safia and taking Rayhana as a concubine.

>>I am a white british female and my grandfather served in the war, i have accepted islam and i am not yet married, i wear the long dress and headscarf and i do not have a man i man life telling me to do this.<<

I feel truly sorry for you. Despite living in an enlightened society you have fallen prey to a cult that denigrates half of humanity and the majority of mankind and womankind are marked for eternal torture. It is a cult that requires that you be killed if you leave it.

>>I do this because this is how God advises me to dress...did you ever see the virgin mary in a mini skirt? no she was dressed modestly with a headscarf the same as many christians still do to this day.<<

Helen, god did not advice you. You THINK that god adviced you because an illiterate man 1400 years ago claimed to have received this instruction from an unseen creature who in turn received it from an even more secretive being who threatened women with torture if they did not accept this advice. Helen throw off your prison clothes and breath the free air of your country, the country that gave the world the Magna Carta.

>>The Sharia does not force people to do anything there are christians in palestine calling for an islamic state, a true islamic state allows people of other faiths to practice their religion, and gives them all the rights.<<

Would you, as a Muslin the UK like to live under a law that says you must pay a humiliation tax to continue following your religion?

009.029 YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Living in dhimmitude how would you like to be spat in your mouth while humbly paying your jiziya? Don't believe me? Read:

Jadunath Sarkar, "The Islamic State Church in India," History of Arungazeb, vol 3l Northern India, 1658-1681 pp 283-97. The scholar K. S. Lal records this translation "and should the collector choose to spit into his mouth, op in tens the same without hesitation, so that the official may spit into it." Lal further notes that "actual spitting in the mouth of the non-Muslims was no uncommon." Lal cites a poem by Vijaya Gupta (1493-1519 CE) which includes the line, "The peons employed by the qazi tore away the sacred thread of he Brahmins and spat saliva in their mouths," From Theory and practice of Muslim State in India, pp. 238-39n 124 as quoted on page 111 of The Legacy of Jihad, edited Andrew Bottom.

Quoted in the same book, page 29: Shafi jurist an-Nawawi, "The infidel who wishes to pay his poll-tax must be treated with disdain by the collector; the collector remains seated and the infidel standing in front of him, his head bowed and his back bent. The infidel personally must place the money on the scales, while the collector holds him by the beard, and strikes him on both cheeks."

>>And as for you r sarcastic comment at the end drunkeness isnt allowed for men or women in islam, and i think that anyone with half a braincell can work out for themselves the problems alcohol cause in society ! see you on judgement day xxx <<

People with a hundred per cent more brain cell than half should be able to work out for themselves the problems that Islam is causing the Muslim and non-Muslim world.

Regards

Plato

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