reply to "george walters"

Submitted by Haid (United Kingdom), Jan 25, 2011 at 20:44

You've got to be kidding me, I know that exact Sura by heart.

LOL ...why are you trying to talk nonsense for? Are you for real? Ive made a comment somewhere else in this topic about people misquoting and misinterpreting things out of context, but you have just pushed it too far lol.

You said "Sura 3:54 says allah is the greatest schemer, deceiver and liar and planner"

Oh please, being able to speak Arabic myself that is NOT what it translates to. What IS actually said in the Sura is "And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah."

Now tell me how you got from the actual translation of the verse to what you had quoted? How on Earth did you come to understand that the Sura says Allah is the greatest schemer, deceiver, liar and planner? Either you simply twisted the sentence way out of context and added a few words of your own, or you probably read it of another source without bothering to actually check if that is actually what the Sura says, which also means the source you got it from simply added in non existing statements from Allah. You make me laugh.

The only words used relating to Allah is planned and planner in that sura. Allah is referring to the times when the non-believers on Earth (before Islam was revealed) would plot against man in making them believe that there is no God and that man should not waste their time. But Allah would always be one step ahead and that his words would live on. That's the actual context in what that sura is referring to.

I seriously hate it when people simply state a verse or sura from the Quran and think that there research is done and dusted, when the text in the Quran is pretty much over flowing from one sura to the other, meaning topics and discussions over flow into suras at times in the Quran, to get a full understanding on what is said you have to research the verses and suras before and after the verse at hand, and this is what people fail at doing, or probably don't want to since it might counter-attack their whole argument.

Its funny because majority of people who aren't fond of Islam, are those who think they know everything about it, without ever doing their OWN research.

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