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Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Nov 19, 2006 at 22:20

Pir Sahab, your replies show a great deal of ignorance of both history and reality. Let me correct you on these issues once again. I'll cherry pick your arguments, otherwise my post would be thousands of words long.

You wrote: "America is the largest market and it has the largest arms manufacturing industries. when ever it sees that world is going towards peace. it starts wars or persuades other nations to engage in wars. ( like .. it sold arms to Pakistan.. India.. Iraq in Gulf and the Saudis] as a result US gets money money and more money . So what about that activity of front line supporter of Human rights."

First, you really do need to start keeping up with current news. Russia just surpassed America and it is now the #1 dealer of arms to developing nations worldwide ($7 Billion). Most of Russia's arms are going to China, Iran, and India. France is the #2 dealer (6.3 Billion) and America is #3 ($6.2 Billion). Second, America does not start wars with peaceful countries. It was American intervention that brought peace to the world by defeating the Axis powers in WWII.

Next, you seem fixated on the Taliban: "I think you are talking about Talibaan..... I have said in earlier comment that America is responsible for talibaan regime and now I will say to Americans...... TIT FOR TAT"

I am not talking about the Taliban. Is it the Taliban committing mass homicides of innocent women and children in Israel? No. That would be the Palestinians. Is it the Taliban hurling rockets into civilian centers in Israel? No, that's Hamas. Is it the Taliban threatening to wipe Israel off the map? No, that's Iran. Is it the Taliban blowing up Muslims in Iraq? No, that's Hezbollah. Yes, the Taliban are violent Muslims too, but the things I am talking about are clearly being done by Muslims across the Islamic world.

Next, you make this absurd claim: "but if someone defames our religious beliefs then we are ordered to reply. But most of the rioting, kidnapping , murders are parts of US plannings to portray Islam as a religious of hate, aggression and terror."

So tell me, if it's America staging these protests, if it's America inciting Muslims in Muslim countries to riddle churches with bullets and burn warehouses...then the corollary to that theory is that Muslims are stupid enough to be used as pawns that way. How exactly is America getting these Muslims to react so violently in public in response to something as ridiculous as a cartoon in a newspaper? Do we pay Muslims to riot? Do we sweet talk them into it?

Please explain this power that America supposedly has over Muslims in Muslim countries that enables us to flip a switch and send them to the streets en masse to commit acts of violence?

Next, you said: "So, if a muslim commits a sin, It doesn' t mean that Islam tells him to do so."

Well, considering that your holy book tells you that it's permissible to lie to non-Muslims and to break contracts with them, and to kill them if they don't submit to Islam, I'd say we have very different definitions of the word "sin".

You next show total ignorance of the Christian religion, which you're trying to denigrate by saying: "Now if a muslim commits sin or does against Islamic teachings he will be punished by Allah. You { Christians } believe that your sins will be forgiven . But we believe " unless and untill any one feels ashamed of his sins and then promises not to repeat them again, he will not be forgiven."

Perhaps you should pick up a Bible before criticizing the Christian faith. Christians believe that sinners are forgiven only if they accept Jesus and ask for forgiveness. Those who continue to sin and commit evil acts and who do not seek forgiveness do not get forgiveness in the end. Instead, they spend the rest of eternity burning in Hell as a punishment for their sins. So your comparison in an attempt to make Islam appear more lawful is nonsense.

You keep repeating the mantra: "Islam is the religion of peace." Unfortunately (for you), repeating an untruth a thousand times does not make it true. If Islam is the religion of peace, then explain to me why it is involved in wars against all other religions, why it is involved in well over 90% of all conflicts currently occuring in the world, why Islam is the only religion that reacts with extreme violence and death threats over any sort of criticism of (or even analysis of) its beliefs?

Buddhism, that's a religion of peace. Islam? Violent beyond words.

Next, you claim: "The characteristics of a True Muslim is that he never takes initiative in any agression or war."

Try telling that to the Christians living before the Crusades, or the Christians in Sudan. You do know why there has been constant war in Sudan, right? Because Muslims refused to live up to their promises of creating a united, federal Sudan after decolonization by the British. As is always the case, the Muslims wanted to force an Islamic state on the entire country. That led to war, and to genocide by the Muslims, who have caused more death than in any war since WWII. Islam, with its utter and unreasoning intolerance of other religions, is once again committing genocide against non-Muslims in Sudan.

Your claims are simply not backed by reality, Mr. Sahab. Not by any stretch of the imagination. You make yet another inexplicable claim: "We believe that All people of the globe are human and have equal rights."

Why then are women treated liker cattle in Muslim countries? Why are people of faiths other than Islam denied the freedom to worship as they see fit? You can't even bring a Bible into Saudi Arabia, and you can be jailed simply for having a Christian Mass. That's equal rights? Once again, your claim withers in the face of reality.

Next, you say: "But when ever any one has tried to attack on us and tried to threaten us or becomes dangerous for our sovereinty, we fight with him. ( This is our right to defend our selves) Islamic teachings tells to adopt defensive strategy always. You know "

Self defense is natures oldest law"." The problem is, Islam sees everything that does not bow to its will as a "threat". The mere existence of Christians in Sudan is considered a "threat". The existence of Jews in the Gaza strip (or, according to the PLO, Hamas, and other popular Islamic groups, their existence anywhere in the Middle East) is a "threat".

The problem is not other people or other religions. The problem is that Islam is a paranoid, frightened, immature, and violent religion that has proven incapable of peaceful co-existence with any other religion or belief system. Here are a few quick corrections.

You wrote: "But what about the Christians who fought wars against Jews ( Holocaust and other holy wars)."

The Christians did not instigate and conduct the Holocaust. That was the Nazis with the help of Muslims. Christians saved the Jews by defeating the forces of evil. "Who fought wars against communists( against Russians)." America, proudly. And remember, Communism has resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths in the 20th century. It was an evil, corrupt, homicidal ideology. It was a just war, fighting such an ideology of death.

Islam has stepped up to take the place of Communism as the great world evil in this century. "who fought wars against Islam( history is full of those till now...not need to mention)"

You obviously prefer to remain ignorant as to why Christians were forced to fight against Islam. Try reading a history book, preferably one written by a non-Muslim. On your claims of Islamic pursuit of knowledge, you wrote: "Islam tells us to get knowledge from any where. we come there for the sake of knowledge"

Once again, I bring reality to the table to dispute your erroneous claims. The two best selling books in Muslim countries are not scholarly works, but rather Mein Kampf by Hitler and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's a historical fact that Arabic Unnani medicine was a bastardized version of Indian Ayurvedic Medicine, stolen when Islam trampled over the Vedic culture of the time. If Islam pursues knowledge, then why is half its society (women) denied education? Why then is the literacy rate in Islamic countries so far below the average? As is always the case in these debates, your claims are contradicted by reality.

Next up, this bizarre claim: "we come there to get knowledge ( i accept) and to defend ourselves and to tell the American people that we are not terrorists,, we are not barbarians,,, we are not evil,,, we are not threat to the innocent people but threat to the falsehood."

If you want to prove to the American people that Islam is not violent, that Muslims are not terrorists, then the way to do it is NOT to come fly airplanes into skyscrapers and kill thousands of innocent people, or to try imposing (through Islamic groups like CAIR) your views on Americans, or to riot and engage in violence every time people criticize Islam. You do realize that when people publicly question, criticize, or examine Islam in the light of reality, Muslims tend to kill those who speak the truth?

Next, you turn to the typical anti-Semitic propaganda: "if you look at things that are considered as barbaric and if you attempt to put the evil or barbarian to an end, then first of all put the Israeli govt to an end which is showing tyranny against the innocent palestinians in their own land,"

The verifiable fact of reality is that Muslims in Israel have more freedom, more rights, and better living conditions than Muslims living in any other country, Islamic or otherwise. I find it odd how Muslims always attack Israel as being "barbaric" and yet then never seem to criticize their own people for exploding suicide/homicide bombs in busy cafes and pizzerias filled with innocent women and children. Why is that, Pir?

Why is it that every time this comes up, Muslims point out Israel's actions as barbaric, while trying to justify Islam's actions as justified? You don't consider sending one's adolescent child into a crowd of innocent people in order to blow himself up with a suicide vest as barbaric? Yes or no? You say: "which shows aggresson and has dropped cluster missiles on the innocent lebanese men, women and children. instead of punishing Israel on its barbaric activities you are supporting it . Why??"

Again, as I have said before, Israel takes great pains to MINIMIZE collateral damage, to minimize accidental deaths of civilians when it hunts down and kills Islamic terrorists. Usually they will allow a terrorist target to escape (which often results in more Jewish deaths) in order to avoid killing civilians. Muslims, on the other hand, TARGET civilians.

Do you see the difference there? Israelis wring their hands and hang their heads in shame when innocent bystanders are killed, whereas Muslims parade in the streets in celebration when one of their terrorists kills a crowd of innocent people. The question is not why or whether I endorse Israel's actions. The question is why Islam celebrates the terror committed by Muslims.

Back to the subject of religion, you wrote: "My dear listen carefully........... if man is free to do any thing.. then why it was necessary to send messengers of God ( If you are christian and believe in bible Jesus Christ and God then I am very dishearted by that comment ). if man is free and has no limitations and no one can direct his acitivities then why Jesus Christ came with Bible to adress the people. listen .. when ever man will become free to do any thing and if there will be no doctrine to adress and direct his activities then there will be evils in the world ."

Because God gave man free will. It's man's choice whether or not to commit evil. If he commits evil, then he is sent to hell for all eternity. If he chooses the path of goodness, he is rewarded with eternity in Heaven. The prophets were sent here to give mankind guidance so that mankind could make a decision as to which path to follow.

Your next absurd claim: "every one will try to blow his own trumpet. at last my dear if every one has free will then why America is killing so many innocents ,, why you are bombing in homes where parents are there along with their infant children..'

We all know very well that Muslim terrorists place civilians in combat zones, hide in Mosques and hospitals, and commit other acts forbidden by the Geneva Convention in order to create the illusion that you claim. America does not target hospitals, churches, mosques, or other civilian places. The problem is that Muslim terrorists will purposely and knowingly place innocent civilians in harm's way in order to both prevent retaliation by the opponent, and also to use as propaganda when their cowardly tactics fail.

Anyone who hides in civilian populations behind innocent women and children is a coward, and that's precisely what we see from Islamic terrorists around the world.

On alcohol consumption, you wrote: "you accepted that even hardly but it is being cruel to oneself. Yet Islam say not cruel to your self hardly or softly..."

We hit a speed bump in the language barrier here I'm afraid. That phrase I wrote does not mean that moderate alcohol consumption is somewhat harmful. What it means (it's an English idiom) is that moderate alcohol is not something you can call harmful. There is a massive amount of research proving that moderate drinking of wine produces many health benefits including the lowering of blood pressure and it also shows some anti-cancer properties. Indian Ayurvedic Medicine has a great deal of information on medicinal wine and its proven health benefits. Of course, ANYTHING can be abused, including alcohol.

You further state: "Now Islam knows that thing ,,that if alcohol will not be prohibited then people will start using it in access, as according to human nature is " if something has no ban to use,, we take it in excess, thats why Islam bans to use it. secondly for your kind information, islam prohibits excess of drink and food by the following verses."

That is an absurd argument. First of all, it makes no sense to deny the majority of people a thing that brings health benefits simply because some people will abuse it. And going by your argument, we might as well ban Islam, since according to you and other pro-Islamists, Islam is a good thing to most, but there are some (the terrorists) who abuse it. Figures given by Islamic apologists claim that "only" 10-15% of Muslims support terror. Why not simply ban Islam? Then there would not be any Islamic terrorist, just as if we banned alcohol there would be no alcoholics! You found the answer! Let's also ban cars, antibiotics, pain medicine, television, water, exercise, sex, and everything else that human beings abuse. Your logic is flawed beyond hope.

"So sad...Jesus Christ ( may peace be upon him) has never drunk."

He never banned alcohol now did he? He did provide barrels of it for a wedding. You do need to brush up on your Bible studies before making pronouncements on it.

On Freud, you wrote: "ok, if you don;t accept Islamic point of view then what about the psychoanlytic theory of Sigmund Fried who says that the basic requirement of human is sex and he feels jelousy to his own father, and daughter feels jelousy to her mother during childhood. please read that theory which is written by a western ( not by Islamists) then you will come to know that human ( man and women) both have desires and when women shows her body figures, the desires of man are not controlled.. as a result social problems!!!!"

Funny, I don't recall, in all of my courses in psychology, ever hearing Freud or any other western psychologist say that men's sex drives are not controllable, or that women should enshroud themselves because man cannot control his sexual urges. This is a perfect example of how Islam abuses women. Men cannot control their animal lusts, so women are forced to live like lepers in order to make up for man's weakness.

Absurd! I would also ask you why rape is so commonplace, so pervasive, in Islamic society?

You go on: "I couldn't understand the line "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Any way the west is responsible for that. The strong media and communication and movies have played a vital role here."

I see. America is responsible for that too, huh? Tell me, is Islam ever responsible for any of its actions? Because all I hear from you is "blame it on the West". Is Islam so weak that it cannot stand on its own and accept responsibility for its own actions? And how can you blame American media when almost all American media is banned in so many Muslims countries?

Next, you boggle my mind with this claim: "As I said the human nature is that man seeks sex either he is a muslim or a non-muslim. That's why Islam being the universal religion ( as Islam is not the religion for only muslims) bans that evil."

I see. Sex is evil, so Islam bans it? Please do so. It'll save us a lot of war down the line if Islam would just ban sex because it's "evil". That way, you can just breed yourself out of existence. Unreal.

Moving on to the issue of teen births, you say: "The statistic, which I have taken, is from web "

So ask those people. Don't quarrel with me." If you don't belive the numbers, then show me proof to dispute it. Don't duck the argument.

"Any way do you know Islam says " held the marriages of your children before the age of 20. Why? Why Islam says so………. Because as I said above Islam knows that human has the need for sex, so if he/she doesn't held marriage soon after the age of 15 he may commit sins (like rape, and other forms illegal and unethical sex). So these countries follow the rules of Islam."

Oh, I see. Islam believes that man is too spiritually and emotionally weak to resist the urge to engage in sex until he is married, therefore Islam encourages pedophilia in order to give him early release of that urge? Islam, according to your claims, constantly appeases and caters to man's sins and man's inherent weaknesses. And why was it not a sin for Mohammed to have sex with a pre-pubescent girl? Or is that justified because he had a "need for sex". And if man has a need for sex, then why did Allah create such a powerful urge if man is going to simply abuse it? Your arguments make less sense the more you delve into them.

"But in US the below 20 teenage pregnancy is not because of marriages ,but because of illegal and unethical sexual relationships and intercourse which further causes social problems (as you agree)."

I don't recall agreeing with you there. And as I said in my last paragraph, the way I see it, Islam simply gives man an excuse for pedophilia. Allowing marriages that young means nothing in context of the argument. And of course I am still waiting to hear from you as to why, if rape is "illegal and unethical sex" as you call it, rape is so rampant in Islamic society. Why does Islamic society punish the victim rather than (or at least much more fervently than) the rapist himself?

Why is it that in Iran, that bastion of Islam according to your words, adolescent virgin females who are sentenced to hang for minor crimes are ordered to be gang raped so that they will no longer be virgins and thus can be hanged? If that's not barbarity, I honestly don't know what is!

On punishment, you wrote: "Listen dear… Islam stresses on punishment? I would add another example along with the above examples that Islam orders to cut the hands of the thief. Why? Again question is why? Because Islam is the religion which knows human nature. Human being if not punished on his sins always tries to attempt the sin again. So Islam stresses on punishment. But here on thing to clear that Islam forgives if a person from the bottom of his heart promises not to repeat the blunder again."

See, in CIVILIZED society, we don't believe in mutilating people or killing people for minor crimes, and we do not believe in punishing the victim. I know that's probably difficult for you to understand, but that is the norm out in the civilized (ie non-Muslim) world. A thief may receive both jail time and a fine, which discourages him from committing the crime again.

If you wish to remain in a barbaric, 12th-century system of justice, that's your choice. Just don't expect the civilized world to agree with, endorse, or tolerate such barbarity.

On suicide killings, you claim: "Yes I should accept honestly and we condemn the killing of innocent people by suicide bombing but please just think why any body kills himself along with other people ……… because if he is suppressed or somebody is violating his rights."

I see. So the innocent old women, the 3-month old babies...these people are suppressing or violating the rights of Muslims? How so? And once again, in CIVILIZED society, we have legal ways of dealing with violations of rights. That does not include going out and blowing up innocent people.

Perhaps you can explain to us why the PFLP (a Muslim terrorist group) blew up a Swiss airliner filled with Swiss citizens back in 1970, for example? Were the Swiss violating the rights of Palestinians? And remember, most of the airplane hijackings by Muslims in the 70's was done in order to blackmail the release of known Muslim terrorists who were captured by western governments. How do you justify that?

"And not only muslims are suicide bombers but if you go through history the first suicide bomber belongs to "Tamil Tigers" of Sri lanka" not a muslim."

And you're saying that makes it ok for Muslims to commit suicide bombings?

You invert reality with your next statement: "Islam is the religion of peace but the west has barbaric activities."

Actually, if you bother to look at reality for a moment, it is not Westerners or Christians or Jews or Buddhists who are kidnapping and cutting off heads of reporters in Iraq, raping and killing pre-pubescent children in Africa, hanging gang-raped virgins in Iran for minor transgressions, cutting off hands for stealing a loaf of bread in Saudi Arabia, etc. These are all actions of Islamic countries. That is where the barbarity is taking place. Christianity can (nowdays at least) claim to be a religion of peace. Buddhism can claim to be a religion of peace. For Islam to call itself a religion of peace in the light of reality is absurd beyond words!

Next, you say: "Anyway muslims are not exporting their beliefs in west but they perform their own activities. The western society I( if it allows human to do any activity according to his belief and will) should not resist muslims from their prayers, and muslim women from taking Hijaab(Scarfs)"

Wrong again, Pir. Islam is trying to force itself on Western nations. Islamic women want to wear their hijab (head scarf) when taking ID pictures such as drivers license pictures, which defeats the purpose of it in the first place. Everywhere that Islam is exported to, it demands accomodation and preferential treatment. Why is it that Muslims demand the right to wear a scarf across their face in America when taking an ID photo, when the very purpose of that photo is to be able to identify the person with the ID?

Why is it that Muslims are trying to institute Sharia law in England, France, America, etc? Why do they refuse to assimilate? Why, if Islam demands that other countries accomodate and make allowances for Muslims in Western countries, does Islam not show the same respect for others in their own countries? Why does Saudi Arabia not allow churches, Bibles, crucifixes, or Christian prayer? Why are none of those things allowed in Iran? Why does Islam always insist on a double standard? Can you answer that?

"Who promotes violence and terrorism? Who made the Taliban? Wasn't it US? Who has bombed the innocent women and children in Lebanon? Who attacked the Iraq without any solid proof? Who is now threatening a sovereign country (Iran) which does not accept their interference in its country). Muslims are coming to west, as I said earlier just for the sack of knowledge (and our religion stresses on it)."

You're fixated on the Taliban. Is the Taliban running Iraq? Iran? Syria? Lebanon? Saudi Arabia? The Palestinian Territories? You again spew the propaganda of Israel bombing women and children in Lebanon without addressing the fact that Hezbollah and other Islamic terrorists placed themselves in civilian populations and used those civilians as human shields. Talk about cowardly behavior!

As for Iran, you seem content to ignore that Iran has threatened to wipe an entire country and an entire people off the map (Israel). Only a fool would not oppose such a radical, insane regime from obtaining nuclear weapons.

On Hitler and the Nazis, you display an astounding ignorance of historical fact: "Never, Islam was against Nazis and has never done any side. In fact, the Muslims their selves were afraid of the brutalities of Hitler."

Back in the 1930's, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini (the Grand Mufti of Palestine) said (and I quote): "Our Fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world." Sami al-Joundi, one of the founders of Syria's ruling Ba'ath Party, said: ""We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books . . . . We were the first who thought of [an Arab] translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism." Anis Mansour, editor of the Egyptian paper October, wrote: "The World is now aware of the fact that Hitler was right, and that the cremation ovens were the appropriate means of punishing [the Jews]."

As is always the case in this discussion, your claims are wildly ignorant of both reality and historical fact. Try picking up a history book now and then.

You ask: "I couldn't understand how if you didn't dropped the bomb would have claimed millions of more lives."

Because the war would have lasted many more years and would have required a massive invasion of Japan, which would have resulted in millions more deaths (on both sides).

Once again, if you had any accurate knowledge of history, this would not be so puzzling to you. "But I understand one thing that the who ever has dropped the bomb on innocent civilians children and women, is very cruel."

Would it not have been more cruel to allow the deaths of MILLIONS more people had we NOT dropped the bomb? "Then the irony is that the bomber then declares himself as the front line supporter of human rights."

And the public record shows that America is the greatest supporter of human rights and freedoms in the entire world. "If you want to drop any bomb then drop it on the army headquarters and destroy arms and ammunition. Why are you killing innocent civilians … this shows your brutality that you have no value of human lives."

Perhaps you should suggest that to your fellow Muslims. Why doesn't Hamas, the PLO, and the other Muslim terror groups confine their suicide attacks to military targets? Why do they kill innocents? Their brutality shows no value of human lives. See? These morals and ethics you espouse apply to Muslims as well as non-Muslims.

That fact is, of course, routinely ignored by Muslims. It's only barbaric, inhuman, and evil when the other guy does it. This is precisely why westerners see Islam as a fanatical, barbaric, unreasoning, and uncivilized culture/religion.

On the subject of news, you say: "I watch BBC and CNN. Those channels said there was no any solid proof of weapons of mass destruction."

Yeah, there's some unbiased news sources! (rolling my eyes in amusement) "If you find and saw those weapons then where are they now? And why after seeing them you allowed any body to smuggle, is another question?"

They were smuggled into Syria before the war in Iraq started. We know this for a fact. We also know that we have found evidence of and actual proof of WMDs in Iraq. You haven't been keeping current. Back in 2004, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission told the UN Security Council that Saddam shipped out tons of WMDs before the war started. The Iraqi Survey Group found extensive proof of WMD programs.

Even International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei admitted that Saddam exported nuclear material. That was back in April '04. Where have you been?

"Yes of course. It was brutality but come to the point, who gave Saddam weapons of mass destruction? Not was It US. who gave those weapons to Saddam to attack Kurds and Iranians because Iranians were against US. Please don't ask stupid questions. My dear you did the same thing with Saddam as you did with Talibaan (i.e put the tissue paper in the dustbin after cleaning the nose.)"

So now you just admitted Saddam had WMDs because you claim America gave him WMDs. Earlier you said that those claims of WMDs in Iraq were false. You can't have it both ways. Either he had them or he did not. Which is it?

"You are repeating the same thing. The Hezbollah rockets were the response to the Israeli aggression dear. Muslim don;t initiate in agression they always strike back."

Actually, the battle started because Hezbollah invaded Israeli territory and kidnapped Israeli soldiers to use as hostages in order to obtain the release of fellow terrorists. Are you saying that the Hezbollah rocket attacks on civilian population centers in Israel is justified? Because if so, you would also have to concede that any civilian deaths you claim were inflicted on Muslim civilians by Israeli forces is also justified by that logic. Either it is acceptable to target civilian populations and innocent people, or it is not.

You can't say that it's ok for Islam to do so, but wrong for others. See, Muslims always want it both ways, as long as it balances out in their favor. "Not terror planning but fighting for their freedom and territories. But the actual terrorist is. …Israeli army killing innocent civilians daily."

Are you once again going to go against the face of reality and claim that Muslims are not committing acts of terror on a daily basis on innocent civilians in Israel? "Wow .....Israelis do their best to avoid any civilians. Very funny. The world is not blind dear. Who is being killed by Israeli army daily? Are the young children and women are terrorists who are gunned down by the Israelis."

Nice try. Unfortunately for your argument, the world (or at least those of us who bother to investigate) have seen that most of the "civilian slaughter" claimed by the Palestinians is in fact faked by the Palestinians themselves for propaganda reasons. And once again, you fail to condemn the massive amount of raping, murder, and kidnapping committed by Islam. Who is it that is raping, dismembering, maiming, and torturing adolescent children in Darfur, Sudan, etc? Muslims. Or is that simply acceptable because the Sudanese are violating the Muslim's rights? (Again I roll my eyes in exasperation).

"Never. I accept if there is any brutality made by the Muslims and I condemn them too."

Funny, you don't seem to be condemning it so much as you are making excuses for it. It's also not enough for you alone to condemn it. ISLAMIC SOCIETY AS A WHOLE MUST CONDEMN IT! Until that happens, Islam will remain a violent religion.

"And you are looking and have lust to occupy these oil- riched territories."

As usual, when backed into a corner, you change the subject. Why is it that these oil rich Muslim countries donate so little to charity? Much poorer nations contribute far more than rich Muslim countries do. Why is that? Can you answer that without obfuscating? "Ok then Pakistan was aiding and abetting the same terrorist when they were fighting against Soviet Union. Why didn't you threaten them at that time and why supported them?"

It's very simple. Pakistan was not at war with us at the time. Those people were on our side fighting against a common enemy, ie the Soviets. One tends not to attack one's allies unless and until they turn and attach you, in case you didn't know that.

On another subject, you wrote: "And you are accepting that Holocaust had happened and the Christians tried to clean the globe from the Jews."

I never accepted that the Christians tried to "clean the globe" of the Jews. The Nazis were the ones committing the Holocaust. Do YOU, Pir Sahab, deny that the Holocaust actually happened? Because once again, the facts of history do indeed prove it happened. To deny it is to be in denial or reality.

"Good civilized people don't debate barbarians."

Agreed. Which is why Bush refused to debate Ahmadinajad. :-) "Then why you people are making requests to Iran and Syria to involve in the Iraq crisis and help the west." Maybe because half the "insurgent fighters" (ie terrorists) in Iraq are sent in there by Syria and Iran? I guess you didn't know about that either?

"Why president Clinton and his daughter discussed with Iranians and Clinton's daughter wished to know about Islam and a copy of Holy Quran was send to her from Iran. Why you are sending IAEA and other sources to negotiate with Iranians? So sad of the double cross policies of the civilized nations."

What Clinton's daughter reading a Koran has anything to do with this discussion is beyond me, but we are negotiating via the IAEA in order to avoid having to go to war with Iran. I'd think most sane people would like to see that avoided, wouldn't you?

"And you too dear" On the contrary, what I say is backed up with reality and historical fact.

"However I accept most of the brutalities of the muslim in the history. But what is now going today is totally the tyranny, selfishness and brutality of the westerners."

I see. Please explain to me exactly how the "tyranny, selfishness and brutality of the westerners" is causing the slaughter, mass rapes, and genocide in Sudan by Muslims? I'd love to see how you justify that and twist reality in order to place the blame on America.

"Anyhow of course muslims have commited sins but not islam has allowed them to do so. You directly blame on Islam, that is not right."

Why then are the leaders of Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Palestinian Territories, etc coming out and publicly condeming these acts of terrorism?

Why aren't the muslim clerics out in force parading against such outrages? Why aren't all the so-called "moderate Muslims" out en masse, protesting the "usurption" of their "peaceful" religion by "a few misguided fanatics"? Islam has not allowed them do to so? How about the fact that over 90% of the 400 or so terrorist groups in the world are Islamic? If Islam denies such atrocities, then why is Islam so dominant in terror activity?

Explain the following verses from the Koran: "The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'" (Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176) "The Christians say: The Christ is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them." (Sura 9:30) "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:29) "Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God. If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished." (Surah 5:73) Sura 9:29-31 (fight against Jews and Christians until they are subdued, because God's curse is on them) "Fight those who believe not in God nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "....Kill those who join other gods with Allah wherever you find them; besiege them, seize them, lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush...."(Sura 9:5). "When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads, until ye have made a great slaughter among them...."(Sura 47:4). "....Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not what Allah and His Apostle have forbidden....until they pay tribute..." (Sura 9:29). "Say to the infidels: If they desist, what is now past shall be forgiven them; but if they return, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's." (Sura 8:39). "Proclaim a grievious penalty to those who reject faith." (Sura 9:3).

Seems to me that there is plenty of proof of the inherent violence of Islam.

You plead: "So please change this misconception and don't blame Islam and Quran."

There is no misconception. Do you deny what is clearly written in the Koran, and the Hadith, the Sunnah? Why is it that so many prominent Islamic clerics all over the world are preaching violence? Why is it that back in 2005, during a UN Human Rights Commission Meeting, the Muslim countries blocked an attempt to condemn killing in the name of religion? What did the Muslims object to? This text: "to condemn calls to kill, to terrorize or to use violence in the name of God or any religion." The Muslim representatives claimed it was "an attack on Islam". Which is what they claim every time someone calls them on their barbaric practices. Yusuf al-Qaradawi, dean of the College of Sharia and Islamic Studies at Qatar University, has publicl stated that terror attacks are permissible under Islam.

Once again, I must reiterate that reality proves your claims totally unfounded. The bottom line is that Islam should re-name itself the religion of perpetual outrage. When you compare Christianity to Islam, you see that Christianity is a religion of universal freedom with a loving, forgiving Creator, as opposed to Islam which is a religion of universal tyranny imposed by an intolerant Allah. I'm finished going point-by-point with you, since you are clearly unable to deal with reality and historical facts, and instead choose to spew pro-Islam propaganda on these forums.

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Alise [72 words]ahmadzafireDec 15, 2006 21:1067663
to ahmadzafire [56 words]ASDec 29, 2006 09:5667663
Mark is right [95 words]AliseNov 28, 2006 23:0467655
1Europe is not finished. The muslims in Europe are finished [130 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 30, 2006 16:2567655
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Stephen Phillips [11 words]SohailDec 1, 2006 09:4767655
1Islam is finished in Europe. It's just a matter of time [98 words]Stephen PhillipsDec 2, 2006 12:1467655
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Noah Wilk, history lesson for Avenger [156 words]InfidelNov 29, 2006 02:0067541
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Sword, your command of historic facts is indeed remarkable! [71 words]MosheDec 2, 2006 14:5667541
Thank you, Moshe. [76 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanDec 3, 2006 13:1867541
Sword, can you explain yourself? [128 words]MosheDec 4, 2006 05:4367541
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Just more evasion as usual [1164 words]Noah WilkNov 28, 2006 08:1667364
Noah [79 words]SohailNov 28, 2006 09:5567364
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Good points, Moshe! [110 words]Noah WilkNov 29, 2006 03:3567364
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I'm glad you realize what a thug Arafat was [63 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 30, 2006 16:3667364
Avenger's Lies [159 words]skmillerDec 1, 2006 18:0067364
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1The Muslim growth rate worldwide : Muslims responding to Mullah's appeal for " More Muslims" [761 words]
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Japan Needs Oil Too ... [52 words]Jeff BurkeNov 25, 2006 11:5767304
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harrak [294 words]susanNov 25, 2006 12:4567165
Harrak's Broken Compass [278 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanNov 25, 2006 15:5667165
Harrak becomes reasonable [166 words]OctavioNov 25, 2006 19:5667165
Unfortunately, Octavio [210 words]DonNov 25, 2006 22:5967165
RE: "Why live amongst such aggravation here in the West?" [48 words]HarrakNov 26, 2006 00:5867165
".. are the chinese muslims?" [3 words]HarrakNov 26, 2006 01:0167165
dhimmi no more, your understanding skill is catastrophic like Russian planes.. [254 words]HarrakNov 26, 2006 01:3367165
For Harrak and the transmission of the Greek learning and poor Muslim education! [429 words]dhimmi no moreNov 27, 2006 08:0667165
no way [17 words]susanNov 27, 2006 14:2067165
For Harrak of "philo" and "mytho" and poor Muslim education! [118 words]dhimmi no moreNov 28, 2006 18:2967165
follow the liar till his door step [87 words]HarrakNov 29, 2006 22:3267165
For Harrak and his Fillo or is it philo and his mytho and his big time Chutzpah! [425 words]dhimmi no moreDec 2, 2006 08:5567165
For Harrak and poor Muslim education and oh I forgot and fantasy! [358 words]dhimmi no moreDec 2, 2006 16:4867165
dhimmi no more being nostalgic about hyena way of life [242 words]HarrakDec 2, 2006 21:5167165
dhimmi no more please read [25 words]susanDec 3, 2006 17:1167165
For Harrak poor Mulism education and where is your evidence? [703 words]dhimmi no moreDec 3, 2006 17:2067165
For Harrak and his flawed logic and more of the absurd! [258 words]dhimmi no moreDec 4, 2006 07:3467165
For Susan and Harrak's little world of fantasy! [90 words]dhimmi no moreDec 4, 2006 18:0967165
if you wouldnt mind [18 words]bosJan 28, 2008 14:0967165
Tetrabiblos [51 words]marienza BenedettoDec 21, 2009 04:1767165
A complete blockade of technology to the Muslim World [114 words]Muhammad AliNov 23, 2006 02:5567041
Good morning! chiw chiw..the bird is chanting: Death to America [177 words]HarrakNov 25, 2006 02:2067041
Those BATS/BLACKBIRDS should also may be chanting "paradise for you harrak!!" [185 words]Victor EmmanuelNov 25, 2006 22:0767041
To Mohammed Ali [247 words]VijayNov 27, 2006 11:3867041
Islam as expressed by Mullah Victor Emmanuel Krikar (may god bless him) [235 words]HarrakNov 27, 2006 14:5267041
We will take out Nukes of Iran and Pakistan sooner or later for sure : Reply to Harrak [114 words]Proud AmericanNov 29, 2006 13:0567041
Harrak, look for some non-fictional history books next time please [244 words]WillNov 29, 2006 14:0467041
""We will win and if there is bloodshed, then so be it."" win what, the lotto?! [154 words]HarrakNov 30, 2006 19:0067041
To Victor Emmanuel [289 words]Judeo-ChristNov 30, 2006 21:1867041
I agree with you totally [418 words]Noah WilkDec 2, 2006 03:4667041
which media harrak? [88 words]susanDec 3, 2006 17:2167041
Be careful guys! [61 words]MosheDec 4, 2006 04:3167041
To Harrak -It was on a local news paper dated Nov 30th taken from ABC news reported Nov 29th [159 words]LisaDec 4, 2006 14:2567041
thanks Lisa! [31 words]HarrakDec 4, 2006 21:5967041
For Noah and debating Muslims! [303 words]dhimmi no moreDec 6, 2006 08:0367041
No Sharia - we are civilized! [618 words]Thomas Justin KazeNov 22, 2006 23:3167032
No to Islam and sharia [188 words]BlueEyesDec 28, 2009 04:2867032
Answers for Judeo-Christ as we are open indefinitly in this bar.. [388 words]HarrakNov 22, 2006 14:5066981
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but... [139 words]Noah WilkNov 22, 2006 17:2166981
Harrak, its funny how you used the internet to call the very people who created the internet 'not yet humanized'. [172 words]WillNov 22, 2006 17:5766981
And As Of Late... [51 words]Another InfidelNov 23, 2006 01:2866981
Still living on the memory of the Middle Ages? No wonder you want them back!!! [352 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanNov 23, 2006 04:1966981
Tu est si... ! [76 words]YovenNov 23, 2006 12:1466981
Re: [73 words]OctavioNov 23, 2006 16:0966981
sword, don't forget... [41 words]susanNov 23, 2006 19:4566981
Al-Qaeda's ‘best assets' prime UK timebomb [614 words]ASNov 24, 2006 00:2566981
Harrak you haven't given a complete list !!!!! [33 words]GodfreyNov 24, 2006 10:3166981
"Surrender to God" [592 words]Raul CastroNov 22, 2006 14:3366977
4The Truth About Islam [286 words]Noah WilkNov 21, 2006 19:2966889
Amen - Noah [15 words]JaladhiNov 22, 2006 14:4666889
1Rationalizing Evil [495 words]orange yonasonNov 21, 2006 02:0566788
81Europe still has time to get rid of Muslims [544 words]Faqi HussainNov 21, 2006 00:5666787
1sensible comment [13 words]eliasNov 22, 2006 00:1266787
Islam is evil [64 words]ChristianMay 9, 2007 18:0166787
Media fools people of true Muslim intentions [370 words]Robert Hurley Jr.Jan 17, 2008 22:2266787
PRODUCE TOUR PROOF IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL [190 words]abduraghmaanApr 13, 2008 16:2366787
1the love of christians, and hatred of muslims [208 words]lillyNov 19, 2008 18:1666787
1islam is a cult [177 words]dododNov 28, 2008 16:5766787
1Agree [228 words]wendy hillApr 16, 2009 06:2166787
I agree [52 words]Happy AtheistMay 4, 2009 17:0866787
Interesting [160 words]BraxJun 27, 2009 23:1666787
ISLAM IS LAME [84 words]leoNov 5, 2009 18:4766787
I have an idea [41 words]j walshMar 12, 2010 22:0666787
Sound just about correct. [18 words]PhilipNov 16, 2010 12:1866787
enough [44 words]alleatherFeb 1, 2012 16:2866787
Simplicity of argument [163 words]maximusmichaelusSep 12, 2012 07:1666787
The army hiding behind a religion [33 words]TonyNov 27, 2012 12:1266787
comment on article [303 words]AdamNov 20, 2006 19:3866766
Response to Adam [286 words]FaqiNov 21, 2006 20:1866766
I beg to differ [859 words]Noah WilkNov 22, 2006 17:0066766
Response to Mr. Wilk [405 words]FaqiNov 22, 2006 22:0166766
to Faqi [262 words]AdamNov 23, 2006 00:5866766
Check your facts! [974 words]Noah WilkNov 24, 2006 01:2766766
Total Misfits in our Society [285 words]Judeo-ChristNov 19, 2006 22:0666674
1End of Europe? The lights in America have already been switched off! [481 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanNov 21, 2006 02:4566674
I agree [400 words]Noah WilkNov 21, 2006 21:3266674
Okay... [31 words]Kevin MNov 22, 2006 09:3166674
Islamic fanatics 'grooming students at 25 universities' [638 words]ASNov 24, 2006 00:2866674
Reply to "I Wonder Why?" Really? [731 words]J.M.Nov 19, 2006 18:0266644
LOL! [406 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 20, 2006 14:1166644
1Shame on you, Mu'een Ud Deen [254 words]Noah WilkNov 20, 2006 17:3666644
we had no doubt [213 words]susanNov 20, 2006 19:0566644
Glad to see you can laugh [492 words]J.M.Nov 20, 2006 23:3066644
to Mu'een Ud Deen [72 words]gellin & infidellinNov 21, 2006 23:2566644
A twist of fate [34 words]Judeo-ChristNov 19, 2006 13:5266614
Eurabia follies: Germany 'tolerated' asylum seekers can stay- France: Ends EU visa checks for Algerians [440 words]Ben van de PolderNov 19, 2006 01:2566568
Other Schengen countries should try and emulate Germany [147 words]Oscar RichardsJun 15, 2009 21:2966568
I't's the immigration, stupid' [37 words]BrendaNov 18, 2006 11:5866507
Brenda is right [42 words]Octavio JohansonNov 18, 2006 19:4166507
A European trapped in North America [48 words]Dr Albert SchadenfreudeJun 23, 2009 16:5066507
I WONDER WHY? [495 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 18, 2006 10:4866495
1Another propagandist! [1552 words]Noah WilkNov 18, 2006 18:5866495
Misleading Comment [61 words]JerryNov 18, 2006 23:0466495
Stop saying " Islam is a great religion of peace ". [95 words]TimNov 19, 2006 03:0166495
Islam........ [86 words]GGNov 19, 2006 08:5066495
response to 'servant and slave of Allah' [698 words]susanNov 19, 2006 09:0366495
OK, Slave of Allah... [475 words]J.S.Nov 19, 2006 12:4666495
I do not have to wonder why [38 words]Judeo-ChristNov 19, 2006 20:5366495
to Mu'een Ud Deen [4 words]gellin & infidellinNov 19, 2006 21:0966495
to Mu'een Ud Deen [310 words]gellin & infidellinNov 19, 2006 22:1066495
NOAH WILK - MISGUIDED INDIVIDUAL [101 words]Azi AhmedNov 20, 2006 05:0666495
The IGNORANT [270 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 20, 2006 13:0466495
SORRY MATE [62 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 20, 2006 13:0966495
SUSAN - if that is your real name [485 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 20, 2006 13:5266495
Not misguided, just honest [631 words]Noah WilkNov 20, 2006 17:2566495
Good points, Tim! [182 words]Noah WilkNov 20, 2006 17:4666495
...mujaideen [1462 words]susanNov 20, 2006 18:0766495
WWI and WWII were fought by sinful men not Christians [74 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 20, 2006 18:1666495
1For Mu'een and a few questions about your funny Arabic! [113 words]dihmmi no moreNov 20, 2006 18:1766495
Islam's violent history has been reported accurately [54 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 20, 2006 18:2166495
WHAT A FOOL - Gellin [126 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 20, 2006 18:2766495
1Colonialism was a blessing to this world [69 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 20, 2006 18:2866495
mujaideen again [484 words]susanNov 20, 2006 18:3566495
Azi's Right [361 words]Mu'een Ud DeenNov 20, 2006 18:5366495
azi you were hitler's friends [171 words]susanNov 20, 2006 19:0966495
1Reply to Mareen Ud Deen -- Islamic rule [173 words]Romesh ChanderNov 20, 2006 19:1266495
not your mate [88 words]susanNov 20, 2006 19:1466495
Typically nasty attack [1611 words]Noah WilkNov 20, 2006 19:5566495
To Mu'een Ud Deen Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror [30 words]gellin & infidellinNov 20, 2006 23:0366495
Yes, my dear, but you might want to take another peek at the history books... [229 words]J.S.Nov 20, 2006 23:3666495
1How to overcome jihadi terrorists in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. Easy solution [52 words]Hari IyerNov 21, 2006 00:3966495
1For Azi Ahmed the Muslim "crusades" and Muslim fantasy! [521 words]dhimmi no moreNov 21, 2006 07:2366495
i WONDER WHY?TO Mu'een Ud Deen [224 words]GREGNov 21, 2006 08:0366495
Bible has errors or is it just our understanding? [66 words]JeffNov 21, 2006 08:2166495
ha ha mujaideen [109 words]susanNov 21, 2006 17:1066495
no, azi is NOT right [477 words]susanNov 21, 2006 17:2566495
1Watching a Muslim meltdown [1410 words]Noah WilkNov 21, 2006 17:4666495
For Mu'een you are mangling the arabic language! [172 words]dhimmi no moreNov 21, 2006 20:3566495
LOL "ONE MUSLIM GUY" LOL [251 words]J.M.Nov 21, 2006 23:0066495
susan... [18 words]gellin & infidellinNov 21, 2006 23:2966495
Mu'een Ud Deen about fools [128 words]gellin & infidellinNov 22, 2006 00:0366495
Some Might Call it a Holocaust [500 words]Right of Center FilipinoNov 22, 2006 00:0466495
reply to Noah [101 words]ASNov 22, 2006 01:2366495
Easy Ahmed [130 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanNov 22, 2006 01:3166495
Response to the likes of Mu'ee Ud Deen [646 words]FaqiNov 22, 2006 03:1166495
For Mu'een you are mangling the arabic language part deux! [172 words]dhimmi no moreNov 22, 2006 06:3566495
'creation' in Koran [46 words]BalianNov 22, 2006 10:2266495
NOAH WILK, SUSAN AND LAME ARGUMENTS [545 words]Azi AhmedNov 22, 2006 11:3366495
muslims should stop knocking colonialism [114 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 22, 2006 17:1966495
Another ridiculous argument [496 words]Right of Center FilipinoNov 22, 2006 23:2166495
Religions of Jerusalem [88 words]IndianNov 23, 2006 00:2466495
Muslims just refuse to listen [789 words]Noah WilkNov 23, 2006 03:0066495
Assy Ahmed & The Nation of Islam [328 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanNov 23, 2006 04:3566495
azi you're wrong [540 words]susanNov 23, 2006 08:2966495
response to Indian [39 words]gellin & infidellinNov 23, 2006 19:5066495
Mu'een Ud Deen (may peace be upon him) the Greatest ever historian. Let all the books of history learn from him as prophet learned koran from Gabriel(muslim) [72 words]GodfreyNov 24, 2006 10:5266495
Mu'een Ud Deen spell it beauties of Islam ok [149 words]GodfreyNov 24, 2006 11:0366495
to Azi Ahmed you failed Noah's test [45 words]gellin and infidellinNov 27, 2006 10:2466495
Mueenu`din and the end of Islam [126 words]HarrakNov 28, 2006 22:5966495
Mueen [3 words]SherNov 30, 2006 16:2766495
HARRAK [180 words]Mu'een Ud DeenDec 1, 2006 16:1866495
two faces of the Islamist [355 words]trans-parereDec 2, 2006 18:3766495
For Mu'een Islam and Aristotelain logic! [352 words]dhimmi no moreDec 3, 2006 08:0666495
What a fool [466 words]Mu'een Ud DeenDec 3, 2006 09:3366495
Re: [54 words]OctavioDec 3, 2006 10:0366495
No religion has spoken about the traffic light/ another personal experience with Algerian fundamentalists [280 words]HarrakDec 3, 2006 14:3366495
Harrak, Canadian protocol [236 words]InfidelDec 3, 2006 20:0366495
from your Imams mouth to your ear [469 words]trans-parereDec 3, 2006 21:3666495
Infidel, wait till you hear the rest of the protocol! [207 words]HarrakDec 4, 2006 22:2266495
Put your money where your mouth is! [152 words]Noah WilkDec 5, 2006 18:4566495
Not surprising [38 words]Noah WilkDec 9, 2006 16:2966495
The bible doesn't have errors. Man is full of error [116 words]Stephen PhillipsDec 17, 2006 15:2966495
you are truly wrong [27 words]rofiqulJan 1, 2009 15:0666495
1Response to Mu'een Ud Deen [569 words]Allan ShureAug 15, 2010 10:1966495
So Why Don't You Just Come Out And Say It [93 words]LanceNov 18, 2006 03:5766470
Most important book I've read this year... . Wake up people!!! [99 words]JGlickNov 17, 2006 22:5166462
Freedom vs. Islam [197 words]trans-parereNov 17, 2006 20:3966455
Recent Poll : 96 % Muslims sympathize with Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden [111 words]RajanNov 19, 2006 15:1066455
Rajan [296 words]trans-parereNov 19, 2006 20:2066455
to Rajan response to air travel [18 words]gellin & infidellinNov 19, 2006 21:1166455
Word to the wise [24 words]JaladhiNov 20, 2006 16:1966455
Bush, Steyn, and Europe [261 words]John RNov 17, 2006 17:0566441
Number of Muslims in Europe [236 words]KWNov 19, 2006 01:2066441
Islam or Radical Islam? [14 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John R.Nov 19, 2006 18:5166441
Re: Islam or Radical Islam? [187 words]Octavio JohansonNov 22, 2006 11:4466441
The solution is to go back to our roots/love and support our children [288 words]LisaNov 17, 2006 14:3266423
No! [144 words]MelMNov 19, 2006 20:0966423
We need to get organised [66 words]AlanNov 17, 2006 07:2466392
Are you serious in Fighting Islamism : I urge all Anti Islamists to join " Anti Terrorist Coalition " ( ATC ) [137 words]RamNov 18, 2006 06:1466392
Islam Beware of Biblical Christianity [39 words]Clifford IshiiNov 16, 2006 19:3866364
3Why only Europe ? Almost all Non Muslims countries are being Islamised by Muslims [577 words]Narad MiniNov 16, 2006 11:5966322
Correction [147 words]VijayNov 16, 2006 20:0366322
Response to Narad [74 words]Judeo-ChristNov 17, 2006 00:2966322
1Islamic Terrorist Network in USA : Read about Presence , Location & Activities of Islamic Groups in USA [72 words]Nepali HinduNov 19, 2006 14:5066322
10Open your eyes Vijay : Almost over 98 districts of India are Muslim Majority already [124 words]MuraliNov 19, 2006 15:3066322
May GOD help us to maintain peace over the universe.... [81 words]NOOR......Dec 4, 2006 19:0366322
Training Camps [21 words]Patriot954Jun 24, 2014 19:2866322
Mark Steyn forgets to mention the mild form of Sharia in America [370 words]NaseemNov 16, 2006 10:1366315
Naseem! Naseem! -- get with the program!! [101 words]J.S.Nov 16, 2006 17:0866315
now that the Dutch have officilly banned the burka... [9 words]Gellin and InfidellinNov 19, 2006 10:4566315
Doomsday Redux [666 words]Abu NuwasNov 16, 2006 08:2266301
1The media made up the image of Europe being overrun with muslims [127 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 21, 2006 18:4766301
Historys Irony of Shame [67 words]JayNov 16, 2006 01:0066282
Music- the great demarcator [171 words]zzazzeefrazzeeNov 16, 2006 00:0466278
Look no further than Bill Maher [83 words]BertNov 15, 2006 22:3866271
We drove them out before and we will do again [253 words]WillNov 15, 2006 18:5766250
Living in a fantasy Land [140 words]Judeo-ChristNov 16, 2006 20:5766250
Don't worry about Europe, it is alive and well [412 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 17, 2006 17:0866250
Question of Islam or Democracy [425 words]trans-parereNov 15, 2006 18:4166248
It truly is about Oil [471 words]JeffNov 15, 2006 16:0866213
islam expansion [86 words]jack shannonNov 16, 2006 11:0366213
Abdul casts his vote [116 words]Octavio JohansonNov 15, 2006 15:1466208
Clarify? [244 words]J.S.Nov 15, 2006 20:4566208
JS [14 words]Octavio JohansonNov 16, 2006 18:0266208
1Muslims are going to be run out of Europe [79 words]Stephen PhillipsNov 17, 2006 17:1566208
Yes Germany won't play that [73 words]DrewNov 19, 2006 06:5366208
Oh, I get it... [34 words]J.S.Nov 19, 2006 11:5866208
We infiltrated a Mosque in US and we were welcomed there but .................. [192 words]SakiNov 19, 2006 15:0366208
Allah is forgiving and most merciful [76 words]KuttyNov 19, 2006 15:0866208
To JS: where do you stand? [43 words]Octavio JohansonNov 19, 2006 18:0166208
Actually... [386 words]J.S.Nov 19, 2006 21:0766208
Thank you, JS! [172 words]Octavio JohansonNov 20, 2006 17:5866208
JS, the Ultra Right-Wing and Sharia Law [207 words]Octavio JohansonNov 21, 2006 17:2866208
I agree with you Octavio... [319 words]J.S.Nov 21, 2006 21:0466208
To JS: forget about Left and Right [47 words]Octavio JohansonNov 22, 2006 03:0166208
some info on Sharia Courts in Canada [142 words]trans-parereNov 22, 2006 08:2766208
Moderates and Sharia [153 words]Octavio JohansonNov 23, 2006 07:0166208
Octavio [395 words]trans-parereNov 23, 2006 20:3466208
To Saki [39 words]gellin & infidellinNov 26, 2006 13:5766208
Room for discussion [25 words]TerryNov 29, 2006 18:1866208
Alone YES ! [83 words]Michael CanzanoNov 15, 2006 13:1166201
Europeans alone [138 words]always rightNov 15, 2006 12:3366199
Reply to 'always right' [302 words]KWNov 16, 2006 17:4566199
What About Cultural Marxism? [124 words]William WoodfordNov 15, 2006 10:4566190
Pre-modern Islam beats post-modern Christianity [208 words]JackdawNov 15, 2006 09:5666186
fanatic [87 words]dfwhiteNov 15, 2006 21:1966186
To dfwhite [485 words]JackdawNov 16, 2006 21:3366186
GOOD POINT BUT WHO WILL DO IT? [138 words]ELIASNov 17, 2006 04:1566186
wrong jackdaw [201 words]dfwhiteNov 17, 2006 16:5266186
cowards all [180 words]dfwhiteNov 17, 2006 17:1666186
to dfwhite [367 words]JackdawNov 18, 2006 18:1866186
Majority of Non Muslims are appeasing Islamists inorder to buy false peace for some time [94 words]RahuNov 20, 2006 04:2566186
On the contrary !!! [123 words]dfwhiteNov 20, 2006 16:1166186
Behold a Christian Wahhabi [317 words]Pro-Israeli DemocratNov 20, 2006 21:5066186
Thank You! [55 words]Pro-Israeli DemocratNov 20, 2006 22:1066186
Middle of the road !!! [99 words]dfwhiteNov 21, 2006 21:4066186
Climate change is a false doctrine [133 words]JeffNov 15, 2006 16:2866184
aCitizen - Canadian lefty no doubt [50 words]Jeff BurkeNov 15, 2006 16:4266184
You don't know what you are talking about [123 words]Andrew B.Nov 16, 2006 12:3366184
bad breeding [176 words]Winston SmithNov 15, 2006 09:1866179
Look at NATO/Afghanistan [106 words]DougNov 15, 2006 05:5366173
And what about feminism? [45 words]Joe KeysorNov 15, 2006 04:5566170
jealous [30 words]Octavio JohansonNov 15, 2006 04:3966168
Octavio Johanson -- Why muslims come to europe -- a reply [89 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 17:0366168
Its duty of US , India & Israel to support Patriotic Europeans in fighting Islamism [58 words]Indian BhaiNov 19, 2006 15:3566168
Bull's eye! [92 words]Barbara SchmidtNov 15, 2006 03:5966166
Survival of Europe [118 words]Octavio JohansonNov 15, 2006 03:5266165
Concern For Latin America [287 words]BrendanNov 15, 2006 02:0066163
America Must Save Civilization [1370 words]Prof. Paul EidelbergNov 14, 2006 23:4666161
Paul Eidelberg -- America Must Save Civilization -- a reply [52 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 16:5266161
Muslims want to destroy the West? [481 words]Thomas Justin KazeNov 15, 2006 23:2966161
Why cry over Europe? [179 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDNov 17, 2006 11:2566161
Defending European Jews [152 words]Octavio JohansonNov 18, 2006 15:2266161
reply to octavio [301 words]concernedNov 19, 2006 08:2466161
Italy [102 words]Octavio JohansonNov 19, 2006 17:5366161
you are wrong about italy [87 words]susanNov 20, 2006 07:1966161
Re: Italy [34 words]Octavio JohansonNov 20, 2006 18:0166161
Italian far-leftists [57 words]Octavio JohansonNov 20, 2006 18:0766161
America Alone [93 words]T J BarkerNov 14, 2006 23:1066159
AMERICA TOO WILL FINISH IF WE KEEP IGNORING THE TRUE FACTS. [1037 words]TTSNov 14, 2006 23:0466157
Kudos to you, TTS , for this thoughtful analysis of Islamic ambition [67 words]JaladhiNov 15, 2006 17:2066157
CLICK HERE Mr TTS......... [1451 words]Pir SahabNov 16, 2006 15:4966157
choice vs. religious dictator [259 words]transparereNov 16, 2006 18:4266157
Excellent Analysis : We have to devise methods to include common man in our struggle against Islamism [318 words]JalaramNov 16, 2006 22:2366157
Stop Islamist propaganda on this forum of Civilised People [97 words]CostasNov 16, 2006 22:3566157
Get your facts straight [2300 words]Noah WilkNov 16, 2006 23:3266157
the biggest joke in this forum [464 words]eliasNov 17, 2006 05:1666157
Fitting Reply to an Islamic Jehadi Pir Sabah : Tit for Tat [50 words]PhunchiNov 18, 2006 06:0466157
Response to Elias [108 words]Judeo-ChristNov 18, 2006 13:4866157
reply to the biggest joke [1962 words]Pir SahabNov 19, 2006 08:3566157
reply to "stop islamic propaganda" [220 words]Pir SahabNov 19, 2006 08:4666157
Response to Noah [37 words]Judeo-ChristNov 19, 2006 09:1766157
reply to"Get your facts straight" [3869 words]Pir SahabNov 19, 2006 13:1066157
Now time to cry Punchi [129 words]Pir SahabNov 19, 2006 13:3766157
4Once again, I must correct you [6665 words]Noah WilkNov 19, 2006 22:2066157
Judeo-Christ is right [347 words]eliasNov 20, 2006 03:3366157
pir, you are wrong on the alchol issue [47 words]susanNov 20, 2006 07:5166157
PIR - really the biggest joke [36 words]susanNov 20, 2006 19:2066157
pir help me [91 words]susanNov 20, 2006 19:2566157
pir still on iranians [2438 words]susanNov 20, 2006 20:3666157
PIR wrong again [163 words]susanNov 20, 2006 20:4066157
To Noah Wilk [5 words]orange yonasonNov 21, 2006 02:4166157
Oh, Susan [35 words]Octavio JohansonNov 21, 2006 15:5466157
For Pir Sahab and Islam is the religion of the Arabs! [371 words]dhimmi no moreNov 23, 2006 07:3166157
Ready to help you Susan [239 words]Pir SahabNov 23, 2006 12:0766157
Of course a joke Susan [115 words]Pir SahabNov 23, 2006 13:0666157
Pir is just a Muslim Susan [1114 words]Pir SahabNov 23, 2006 15:0766157
PIR, the liar is you, here's the proof [406 words]susanNov 23, 2006 19:1366157
PIR do you understand the english language? [37 words]susanNov 23, 2006 19:1666157
pir [593 words]susanNov 23, 2006 19:3266157
Pir, Tell us all about THE BIG PICTURE [262 words]J.M.Nov 24, 2006 00:5166157
1What goes around comes around [212 words]Noah WilkNov 24, 2006 01:4166157
To Dhimmi no more [40 words]FaqiNov 24, 2006 15:4566157
See the BIG PICTURE Suan but with open eyes [2506 words]Pir SahabNov 25, 2006 13:3366157
For Pir Sahab and Islam is the religion of the Arabs! part deux! [361 words]dhimmi no moreNov 25, 2006 13:4666157
Go to my "reply to the Big picture", Susan [126 words]Pir SahabNov 25, 2006 13:5066157
Noah go to my reply"See the BIG PICTURE Susan but with open eyes" [54 words]Pir SahabNov 25, 2006 14:0266157
Islam is the religion of mankind dhimmi [438 words]Pir SahabNov 25, 2006 14:3166157
Pir sahab Please reply to me [95 words]Victor emmanuelNov 25, 2006 22:2566157
pir... [68 words]susanNov 26, 2006 08:3066157
For Pir Sahab and Islam is the religion of the Arabs! part trois! [477 words]dhimmi no moreNov 26, 2006 08:4666157
Pir Sahab [511 words]trans-parereNov 26, 2006 09:3766157
to Pir Sahab [67 words]gellin & infidellinNov 26, 2006 12:4466157
1For Pir Sahab and Islam is the religion of the Arabs! part trois continued! [818 words]dhimmi no moreNov 26, 2006 14:3266157
For Pir Sahab and Islam is the religion of the Arabs: the Ramadan fasting and Hinduism! [250 words]dhimmi no moreNov 26, 2006 14:4466157
Once again, you prove my point [620 words]Noah WilkNov 26, 2006 16:2066157
More ignorance of the very thing you criticize [125 words]Noah WilkNov 26, 2006 18:4066157
ROTFL! [54 words]Noah WilkNov 27, 2006 14:1066157
to Pir Sahab [17 words]SherNov 30, 2006 07:5166157
To Pir Sahab [58 words]SherNov 30, 2006 16:4366157
Hi Susan [131 words]SheraNov 30, 2006 17:2166157
sharia go home [158 words]susanDec 2, 2006 12:2166157
hey Suz [260 words]SheraDec 2, 2006 18:5966157
Good Points about the Arabian allah ! [457 words]John TuckerDec 3, 2006 12:5766157
so you don't understand [535 words]susanDec 3, 2006 16:3566157
Susan: here is the last response [1252 words]SheraDec 17, 2006 18:3366157
Perfectly Put [26 words]Yael E. ZionFeb 2, 2007 14:5766157
America is just as doomed [402 words]Noah WilkNov 14, 2006 22:4066154
America is doomed -- reply to Noah Wilk [31 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 16:3766154
Talk about oppression !! [61 words]dfwhiteNov 17, 2006 13:5766154
History repeats itself............ [144 words]TimothyNov 14, 2006 22:1766152
Europe is Finished, Predicts Mark Steyn [139 words]Steven LNov 14, 2006 22:0166150
Power and responsibility [76 words]David W. LincolnNov 14, 2006 20:2566143
My problem is with the followers of Islam [108 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 15:5066143
romesh [91 words]susanNov 15, 2006 18:1866143
Why Muslims cannot change [190 words]David W. LincolnNov 15, 2006 23:4766143
america alone [119 words]robert fusfeldNov 14, 2006 20:1166141
Steyn [73 words]LDCNov 14, 2006 19:2266139
Another problem... [468 words]J.S.Nov 14, 2006 18:5966138
Is terrorism a global threat? [115 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Ivan IzquierdoNov 14, 2006 18:0166132
Big Fuss 'bout Nothin [132 words]skmillerNov 14, 2006 17:2466128
1The assumptions are incorrect [614 words]KWNov 14, 2006 17:0366124
Reponse to KW's coment that "the assumptions are incorrect" [248 words]Ray ExleyNov 14, 2006 17:2866124
Reply to Ray Exley [697 words]KWNov 16, 2006 09:1666124
Out of touch with reality [1509 words]Ray ExleyNov 17, 2006 07:0066124
Reply to Ray Exley [633 words]KWNov 18, 2006 01:3166124
Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but not his own facts. [53 words]Ray ExleyOct 8, 2012 14:5166124
Lonely are the brave !!! [372 words]dfwhiteNov 14, 2006 16:5566122
America Alone [103 words]GaryNov 14, 2006 16:5266121
towards a hindu, jewish & christian alliance against islamo-fascism [18 words]kbuncJul 8, 2012 09:1766121
Death of Christianity as well [103 words]David GoshenNov 14, 2006 16:4966120
Death of Christianity in Europe -- Comment [217 words]Romesh ChanderNov 14, 2006 17:1066120
The world has seen... [102 words]Vic CoffeyNov 15, 2006 04:5766120
ISE [103 words]Octavio JohansonNov 15, 2006 09:2266120
To Romesh "The Death of Christianity" [645 words]Lactantius Jr.Nov 15, 2006 09:2666120
Romesh, War without religion [198 words]InfidelNov 15, 2006 15:5166120
Reply to Lactantius -- I care about actions of religious people [91 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 16:2266120
Reply to Octavio Johanson -- why not evict Muslims from Europe now? [66 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 16:3366120
romesh [198 words]susanNov 15, 2006 18:1366120
Reply to Romesh Chander [196 words]Octavio JohansonNov 16, 2006 02:5066120
"By their fruit you will know them" [1043 words]Lactantius JrNov 16, 2006 08:1366120
Why not deport them now? Reply to Johanssen [346 words]Romesh ChanderNov 16, 2006 19:0466120
To Susan -- Don't blame Muslims -- [152 words]VinodguptNov 17, 2006 14:0666120
octavio, about the issue italy and spain [175 words]susanNov 22, 2006 15:1466120
Rubbish [1 words]AnsariDec 14, 2013 05:0966120
Welfare States [138 words]LARS NIELSENNov 14, 2006 16:3866116
Misery loves company [416 words]PatNov 14, 2006 16:3366114
Ironic that [71 words]RichNov 14, 2006 16:2366112
Conervatives are addicted to Oil: and who owns this oil??? [232 words]Bob LangfelderNov 14, 2006 16:2166110
10 reasons why even America will succumb [370 words]JeffNov 14, 2006 16:0066107
You are right - Jeff. [280 words]JaladhiNov 14, 2006 17:0266107
European guilt [42 words]Octavio JohansonNov 14, 2006 18:0966107
54How muslims succeed in India even after 1947 partition of India on the basis of Islam [245 words]BheeshmNov 15, 2006 09:2566107
Mark Steyn is 100% wrong... [181 words]Michael BelaNov 16, 2006 05:2666107
Michael Bela lets hope you're right... [396 words]HomefrontNov 16, 2006 18:0766107
Homefront and Michael Bela "hopes". [106 words]MosheNov 19, 2006 05:1966107
Moeshe - yes it is preferable... [579 words]HomefrontNov 24, 2006 00:5666107
Reply to 10 reasons why even America will succumb [7 words]IndianOct 6, 2009 07:1966107
1reply [12 words]ausafMar 28, 2011 10:3966107
Facts and figures [58 words]SaqibJan 23, 2013 16:4066107
It's not true [144 words]HassanOct 21, 2016 00:0966107
Resurgence of Religion [672 words]DaisyNov 14, 2006 15:4466104
Eurabia or Eurasia [147 words]JonNov 14, 2006 15:3566102
America not alone [97 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDNov 14, 2006 16:1766102
Europe deserves better [80 words]Octavio JohansonNov 14, 2006 16:3766102
Comment on Dr Brandstandder [75 words]Romesh ChanderNov 14, 2006 16:4566102
response to your comment [184 words]MaryNov 14, 2006 17:1166102
India , Israel , Australia , Japan & east European Countries will be staunch allies of US in the coming war against Islam [83 words]RoliNov 15, 2006 10:2666102
Reply to Roli -- you want Indians to die for USA [152 words]Romesh ChanderNov 15, 2006 16:2966102
We share common values and We are natural allies in the Global War against Islamism [696 words]RoliNov 16, 2006 11:3266102
I support Indians [32 words]Octavio JohansonNov 17, 2006 19:1366102
Nej Octavio, unskyld mig men Europa mennesker er ikke " innocent" [242 words]Jeff BurkeNov 18, 2006 15:2166102
Dear Jeff Burke [58 words]Octavio JohansonNov 18, 2006 19:3766102
1Indians in Allied Armies in WW II against Nazis / Facists , In WW III , India is natural Ally of West [289 words]Mumbai BoyNov 19, 2006 14:4366102
1kind of obvious [57 words]maksmanNov 14, 2006 15:2566101
1Stop Muslim Immigration [327 words]Octavio JohansonNov 14, 2006 15:0466098
1Europe is Finished, Predicts Mark Steyn [118 words]mikeNov 14, 2006 14:5166096
America at Greater Risk -- Reply to Mike [201 words]Romesh ChanderNov 14, 2006 15:5266096
The Problem is a lack of leadership [128 words]GaryNov 14, 2006 23:0666096
1I don't have his optimism [41 words]MaryNov 14, 2006 14:4766095
1DeIndustrialization [268 words]Romesh ChanderNov 14, 2006 14:3366094
1America Not Alone [124 words]HarrakNov 14, 2006 14:3266092
1America Alone [104 words]ToccataNov 14, 2006 14:1966091
toccata [188 words]susanNov 14, 2006 16:3066091
Susan gambling with the pension of her grandma [487 words]HarrakNov 14, 2006 22:2666091
Susan is correct [120 words]Octavio JohansonNov 15, 2006 02:2566091
Dear Susan [58 words]Kevin MNov 15, 2006 11:5166091
Are you unemployed then, Harrak? [19 words]Octavio JohansonNov 15, 2006 15:5766091
octavio... [40 words]susanNov 15, 2006 17:2366091
kevin [122 words]susanNov 15, 2006 17:3466091
? [147 words]susanNov 15, 2006 17:4666091
I have been unemployed since I became employer! [136 words]HarrakNov 16, 2006 01:0966091
Harrak is embarassing [113 words]Octavio JohansonNov 16, 2006 12:0966091
Dear Harrak [64 words]Octavio JohansonNov 16, 2006 18:0666091
Susan -- you are right [83 words]VinodguptNov 17, 2006 14:2166091
Susan: Harrak is like Borat [149 words]Octavio JohansonNov 17, 2006 16:4666091
-->? [437 words]HarrakNov 17, 2006 21:1566091
who is decarte? [544 words]susanNov 19, 2006 08:2166091
For harraq and the earth is flat and poor Quranic theology! [281 words]dhimmi no moreNov 25, 2006 17:1266091
1Altough far from complete, a good analysis [395 words]HilareNov 14, 2006 14:1866090
1the new world order [51 words]edNov 14, 2006 12:4366084
IT IS WRITTEN!!! [121 words]ahmadzafireNov 14, 2006 20:3766084
Reply to ahmadzafire (IT IS WRITTEN) [175 words]DRSNov 15, 2006 17:0966084
... [42 words]susanNov 15, 2006 17:4966084
For Ahmed Zafire aka the Muslim convert and the "beauty of Islam"? you must be kidding! [176 words]dhimmi no moreNov 15, 2006 18:0166084
It is Traitorous!!! [56 words]FredNov 15, 2006 20:0666084
Dear American readers [124 words]Octavio JohansonNov 16, 2006 08:5966084
It is written.. wrong again [114 words]MikeBelNov 16, 2006 11:4566084
DRS [281 words]ahmadzafireNov 16, 2006 16:2666084
MikeBel [52 words]ahmadzafireNov 16, 2006 23:5466084
Genocide against Jews and Muslims in their 13th century! [189 words]HarrakNov 17, 2006 01:0166084
Fastest growing faith, Ahmad? Why? [410 words]DonNov 19, 2006 02:2366084
Don [95 words]ahamdzafireNov 19, 2006 19:3766084
To DRS [221 words]DonNov 20, 2006 05:0266084
THE SAME ABUSE AGAIN [48 words]ELIASNov 20, 2006 06:0266084
Harrak: A Broken Record [199 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanNov 20, 2006 15:1566084
Tenis, Harrak? [38 words]Octavio JohansonNov 20, 2006 18:1366084
The Reality of Christianists (Christianism not Christianity) [183 words]HarrakNov 20, 2006 21:5166084
( FOR CHRISTIANS JESUS IS NOT A PROPHET. HE IS GOD ) [180 words]HarrakNov 20, 2006 22:0866084
to Harrack [13 words]gregNov 21, 2006 08:0766084
Islamization of Europe= End of this continent [80 words]Jan III SobieskiNov 21, 2006 14:1066084
No, Ahmed...you're wrong [116 words]DonNov 21, 2006 21:0066084
To Harrak [131 words]Judeo-ChristNov 21, 2006 21:0766084
ELIAS [123 words]ahamdzafireNov 21, 2006 22:0966084
HARRAK DONT BE A FOOL! [192 words]ELIASNov 22, 2006 00:0866084
Christian-ism [120 words]Octavio JohansonNov 22, 2006 08:0766084
For Harraq and his flawed Muslim logic! [199 words]dhimmi no moreNov 22, 2006 16:5866084
don [73 words]ahmadzafireNov 22, 2006 17:5766084
only if people judge from experience and still judge few [189 words]ahmadzafireNov 23, 2006 07:2366084
Like you said, Ahmed. [223 words]DonNov 23, 2006 20:0166084
don [273 words]ahmadzafireNov 24, 2006 18:4066084
Islam rules! [536 words]DonNov 25, 2006 00:2166084
Harrak [151 words]DonNov 25, 2006 03:0366084
no zafire [116 words]susanNov 25, 2006 12:3466084
susan [630 words]ahmadzafireNov 25, 2006 23:0166084
wrong again [216 words]ahmadzafireDec 15, 2006 21:3566084
But... [125 words]DonDec 17, 2006 02:0766084
don...American Soldier is what I'am [111 words]ahmadzafireDec 24, 2006 19:5466084
looking for the word in islam [21 words]beavisJan 8, 2009 01:3166084
sigh [104 words]daveMar 19, 2009 10:3566084
talking to himself? [54 words]T.MOct 14, 2009 04:2166084
Our dear TM and al-aqaneem [147 words]dhimmi no moreOct 14, 2009 18:4166084
@dhimmi no more [140 words]T.MOct 21, 2009 13:0966084
Our dear TM and Greek logic which is beyond the Muslim mind [388 words]dhimmi no moreOct 22, 2009 19:3966084
Our dear TM and Greek logic which is beyond the Muslim mind part deux [491 words]dhimmi no moreOct 23, 2009 08:2266084
Our dear TM and Greek logic which is beyond the Muslim mind part trois [214 words]dhimmi no moreOct 24, 2009 08:4066084
Our dear TM and Greek logic which is beyond the Muslim mind part quatre [216 words]dhimmi no moreOct 24, 2009 08:5466084
Our dear TM and al-tawheed [110 words]dhimmi no moreOct 24, 2009 08:5966084
our dear TM and the poor madrassa education [109 words]dhimmi no moreOct 24, 2009 15:0766084
Our dear TM and Greek logic which is beyond the Muslim mind part cinq [405 words]dhimmi no moreOct 25, 2009 13:1966084
11 years old no more [240 words]T.MNov 2, 2009 02:0766084
Our dear TM and on being clueless [592 words]dhimmi no moreNov 4, 2009 11:0466084
@11 years old no more [309 words]T.MNov 10, 2009 03:2366084
Another victim of poor education and Arabian imperialism [735 words]dhimmi no moreNov 11, 2009 07:3866084

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