For Avenger and his poor falsafa, tafseer and Muslim fantasy!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 9, 2006 at 08:13

My dear Avenger rabina yu3alimak al-Syriani wa al-yunaniya wa al-yahudiya wa al-lugha al-3Arabiya akthar wa akthar (and I will translate this one for you because I know that you know no Arabic: "may our God teach you Syriac, Greek, Hebrew, and the Arabic language more and more") because you will need it in our little chat.

But my dear Avenger reading too much Zakir Naik (only if you know what the Arabic word Naik really means) and Ahmad Deedat (more about the name Ahmad later on) or whatever is bad for you as you shall see. And you will also see that you are a victim of poor theologians called Muhammad the Arabian war lord and caravan raider and his Allah!

Now I need to ask you a few question about your quotes from the Bible:

1. Your Allah says that the Jews and Christians _harafu_ (oh I forgot that you know no Arabic. Urdu may be?) Ok I will be nice today: harafu means _corrupted_ the Bible. Right?

2. If Jews and Christians have indeed corrupted the Bible then why do you quote a book (the Bible) that has been corrupted?

3. And how do you know that those specific verses from the Bible that you quoted were not corrupted?

4. Do you know what is Occam's razor? I'm sure with your glorious madrassa education you are very much aware of Occam's razor. In this case you the avenger cannot build any assertions based on your belief that the Bible has been corrupted! Right?This is basic Aristotelian falsafa that is beyond your Allah and his rasul and you too. And your comments?

So far your post is bogus unless you do not believe that Jews and Christians did not corrupt the Bible as you are quoting verses from the Bible to prove your bogus assertions. So which one is it my dear Avenger that your assertions are bogus or that you do not believe that the Jews and Christians have corrupted the Bible? It is either one of the other as it cannot be both!

Now we move on to Quranic gem time in Q61:6 it says the usual Quranic blah....blah....blah..then Jesus is saying:

1. "wa mubashiran" which means: and announcing/proclaiming.

2. "birasulan" means with a prophet

3. "ya'ti" means he arrives

4. "min ba3dee" means after me

5. "ismuhu" means his name

6. "Ahmad" means Ahmad

then more Quranic blah.... blah .......blah.....

So Muhammad (see below) is saying that Jesus is saying: "and announcing/proclaiming the arrival after me (Jesus) of a prophet and his name is Ahmad."

Big deal!

Notice that in this Aya we do not have the usual "Qul" or say so I must conclude that these must be Muhammad's words. So here are my questions for you:

1. I thought that the Qur'an is your Allah's utterings but it seems that in this case it is Muhammad that is talking what do you think our dear Avenger?

2. And if these are Muhammads' words (as there is no Qul) then how do you know that your Allah agrees with Muhammad's claim here?Remember Occam?

3. And why does this Quranic gem not use the name Muhammad? and why does Muahmmad has so many names: Abul Qasim, Muhammad and now Ahmad?

4. Ahmad! Who on earth is this Ahmad? If you think that the Qur'an is refering to Muhammad the caravan raider and Arabian war lord then prove it. And how do you know that he is not let us say our dear Ahmad Deedat? Or may be we need to check other nicknames of other prophets that "ya'too ba3d 3Isa" (oh silly me you know no Arabic but you can consult Zakir Naik) the likes of Joseph Smith or Guru Nanak!

5. And how do you know that this Ahmad is not the Ahmad of the Ahmadiya?

6. And how do you know that even the name of Muhammad that is mentioned 4 times in the Qur'an is the same name fo the Arabian war lord and caravn raider and not some other Muhammad? Let me help you: you cannot!

7. Now we are told in the Sira that Muhammad's kunya (silly me do you know what is a kunya? But you are babbling in languages that you pretend to know so you must be able to know what this word really means) is Abul Qasim so why does the verse nor say: Ismuhu Abul Qasim? Or even: Ismuhu Muhammad?

I will be wiating for your answers with great anticipation and while we are at it:

Are you aware that the Qur'an also says that jesus is god? Would you like to know more?

And like I say: I find it bizarre that you are out to spread the religion of the Arabs and Arabian imperialsim that brutalized your ancestors. Shame.

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