You do have great reasoning skills ...

Submitted by kman (United States), Nov 20, 2008 at 00:19

You have some very good reasoning faculties and I commend you on them.

An exception on my part is your correlation of "free choice" with the alluded to Christianity. God has always given man "free choice". When man takes that choice and does wrong with it, then he suffers. Very strong and godly men started the United States off on excellent footing. God blessed that for a long time. When the citizens of the U.S. started giving themselves credit for every accomplishment God blessed them with, they also, started worshipping themselves over God.

God gave man one last fresh chance with godly men, a godly government, and laws based on godly principles. Man took that eventually to where man has always taken it. False gods and self indulgence. The moral decay and corruption is not the fault of the God who gave the world this nation. He gave man enough rope to hang himself and proved once again that man alone can't do it and will always get off course when it strays from the principles of truth, love, forgiveness, and devotion to his Creator. The world at large trashed everything of value that God gave it through this nation. Thanks and credit where credit is due have vanished. Neither the world or the population of the U.S. deserved the break in history that God gave them. The U.S. was unmatched in potential and what they initially started out to do. Unfortunately, they and the world got off course.

Islam will be used to discipline and punish in the same way God used to punish Israel with the Babylonians, Assyrians, and all the rest.

You threw away your very great logical skills when you came in and just said Islam is best. No reasoning whatsoever. In spite of seeing the wasteland of man's philosophies (Sarte, et al), you have never seen the facts of all Muslim history. The Islamic history book is so ghastly, I could bury the world with the writings of their atrocities right up to the present day.

Islam has done nothing for the Palestinians except arm them to fight a cowardly war behind the backs of women and children. They then blame those who have no choice but to fight back and defend themselves to the detriment of those women and children. The terrorists are not a minority when they have the complicit backing and blessings of all Islamic nations and governments. Muslims bomb, burn, rape, and slaughter Christains throughout the Middle East, Northern Africa, Pakistan, IIndia, Indonesia, and China.

They have blackmailed Great Britain into erasing all mention of any of the events of the holocaust from all educational institutions. Why? Because the Muslim nations were allies of Nazi Germany and shipped as many Jews to the Nazi concentration camps as they could find. Islam is doing what they have always done - re-write history to erase their atrocities and paint a picture of Islamic rosiness with no attachment to reality. It is self sustaining by forcing the deception on their own believers at the point of a gun. What value is there for God to have people "love" Him and obey Him at the point of a gun??

I don't neccesarily blame you or even any Muslim for that. None of you are any more wrong than the rest of the human race. It isn't fault with Arab or Muslims so much as the ideology they bought into - Islam. That is an accident of birth. The accident of birth put me in a nation where, for a time I could investigate, as you claim to have done, all religions and do so freely without having to worry about who was looking over my back. I have to cop to having being blind myself. I became an atheist for 13 years. At about age 27 - 28, God stepped in and "slapped me across the face" (so to speak) and, introduced me to truth. I don't take any credit or bows and do not set myself on any pedestal.

We all sin and are without excuse before God. That's why God took it upon himself to step in and pay the price himself so, that those who obeyed and followed could attain everlasting life in His paradise. There is nothing about Jesus the Christ that gives favor to any one race, nation, or language. It is not an American institution. It is available to everyone upon fessing up to their own faults and failures.

The incredible sacrifice of God to save those at the pinnacle of his creation that he loved so deeply, can only be found through the Christ. I don't say "Christianity", because so many of man's failures have been attributed to the failure of the "God" of "Christianity. God's son did what no man could because "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1) John the apsotle goes on from that verse to show the birth of that "Word" who became the Son of God in man's flesh.

He was born in the Middle East. He was not an American, did not have white skin, or blond hair. His message is not for any one race or nation. He will not hold a gun to anyone's head and force them to believe or stay in that belief. God choose from amongst all men who make the "free will choice" to follow and obey. That is where he finds real value in any human. Humans have died terrible deaths by the hundreds of millions throughout history rather than re-cant their allegiance to the Christ.

Hindus, Buddhists, and Muslims persucute Christainns in every nation in the Middle East, Near East, and far East and Northern Africa. Islam spreads its lethal hatred daily to every nation.

I don't just reason. I reason from historical fact gained in a once free society. I thoroughly know the Bible and much of the Quran. The day is coming when I will not be allowed to "reason" anywhere due to the latter.

I try not to denigrate a Muslim and fail a lot but, Islam is the problem and not those who mistakenly or are forced to buy into it. No man may stand before God - except through his Christ (Messiah).

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