69 million page views

Conflicting Theosophies Coming in Full Circle

Reader comment on item: Jerusalem, Jordan, and the Jews
in response to reader comment: الاسلام دين ودولة and the OTHER or the apostate!

Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Sep 9, 2020 at 14:42

Conflicting Ideologies/Theosophies Coming Full Circle:

So, the contention of the ages; which society will survive the epic conclusion of long lost empires and the failed attempts to 'resurrect' ideologies in the face of failed theosophies that cannot hope to rule a world that rejects religion for the idolatry of worshipping the self above all? How does any claim of moral supremacy serve a religious claim that none are willing to serve? But a final conflict is still brewing, that a law formed from a religion is still at odds with a law that was conceived in spite of religion. Obedience is determined as the key; however, is not willing obedience better than compulsion against the will? Serving in liberty serves in love, not hatred.

The answer to this is the source and basis of why civilizations cannot get along. Mankind is in rebellion and religion does not serve to bring obedience to truth. Humanity must surrender to the truth or be destroyed for failure in recognizing where the truth is derived.

In this latest explanation of how religion not based in truth, we find that truth has been shielded in mankind's attempts to attain self-determination. As described by earlier assessments of how the written testament of the Jewish Scriptures were camouflaged by erroneous transcriptions and later replaced by further attempts to eliminate what was written in in truth, the replacements substituting error for truth and exacting terrified responses of compliance to the new religion so that the message of redemption would not be revealed. It has been a death dealing blow to most of the modern culture of the Western civilizational era; but eventually the truth has prevailed. Eventually, anti-Zionism becomes the key, revealing that Zion is the place where the truth will ultimately triumph; and the Hebrew Holy Writ was right all along when opened to the truth in love.

But here is the conflict joined; that while the world is in a medically induced COVID-19 paranoia of fear and religion is being targeted for violations of pandemic exclusion, the chasm between the law of the Hebrew Holy Writ and the Quran is still as divided as ever; and the place where that is still as much of a flashpoint as ever is in Jerusalem. Here we see the 'Palestinian's are as divided as ever as well. Why, we wonder. Do the influences of Shiite Islam provide the source of solving their identity crisis; or does the Sunni overtures of the UAE and potentially other actors in the region provide a relief of tensions as inflections of apostasy(both in Muslims and Christians alike) and betrayal (even though toned down for the moment) are set aside to see where this agreement between Zionist Israel and anti-Zionist enemies can end up?

Again, how does the tension between which legalization of religious contentions get any relief if there is no true understanding of law? When Islam covered the Middle East with a new perception of which law to be obedient to, the controversy of the supposed disrespect of the Torah by converts to the Rabbi of Nazareth, who was executed at the hands of the Romans at the behest of the religious leaders in Jerusalem. This new revelation of law was well on its way in the centuries after the Romans destroyed the Jewish Temple, only to succumb themselves in later controversy as to which law was to be observed, making the circumstances ripe for replacement theosophy and more formal theology becoming the reasons of conquest for the cause of which belief system was to survive; and which people were to survive if they did not convert to the belief system of the victors. This was the basis of the crusades, and further, the continuing voices of contention today for the Muslim way of life. Not so in true Christianity.

In contrast, the original observance of the law of the Almighty in the Judeo-Christian venue was predicated on the incapability of mankind to be obedient to the law in conscience; so the sacrifice to the law was taken on by the Rabbi of Nazareth; that in condemnation, scourging, death on the cross, burial, resurrection and ascension, obedience to the law was now by believing that Yeshua HaNazaret did die for our sins and that belief is still the basis of salvation. There is no compulsion in that; belief or not, the decision is still voluntary as long as one realizes that rebellion to that requires consequences in eternal judgment. Therein lays the difference in obedience; believing in Yeshua is based upon compassion; otherwise the issues of compulsion going the other way become obvious.

Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Reader comments (47) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
Midianites. [66 words]Reynald de ChatillonJun 25, 2020 01:24259402
Attention Reynald: The Arabs are ancient people! [158 words]dhimmi no moreJun 26, 2020 15:48259402
Arabian Biblical Presence [27 words]M ToveyJun 27, 2020 12:17259402
Biblical References. [95 words]Reynald de ChatillonJun 30, 2020 02:51259402
Isma'eel is the "father of the Arabs"? The confused and confusing Quranic exegesis. [324 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2020 07:13259402
Who are the historical Arabs and who are the Aramaeans? [436 words]dhimmi no moreJul 1, 2020 07:15259402
1Queen of Sheba. [188 words]Reynald de ChatillonJul 2, 2020 03:12259402
Reynald: The letters Sadhe/Sad and Seen/Semkat [365 words]dhimmi no moreJul 3, 2020 07:09259402
These were vassal states [262 words]dhimmi no moreJul 3, 2020 09:01259402
Reason for Queen of Sheba's Visit Recalled [101 words]M ToveyJul 3, 2020 12:07259402
Nabateans. [107 words]Reynald de ChatillonJul 5, 2020 00:41259402
The word مؤامرة and is it "conspiracy" or "plot of land"? Problem solved! [234 words]dhimmi no moreJul 5, 2020 14:21259402
3Refuting the lie that the Qur'an says that the earth is not flat and it is created like an ostrich egg! [461 words]dhimmi no moreJul 6, 2020 11:42259402
1Exposing the source of the lie that the Qur'an says: the earth was created like an "ostrich egg" [141 words]dhimmi no moreJul 6, 2020 12:00259402
The word بدوي or Bedouin! [110 words]dhimmi no moreJul 7, 2020 06:00259402
Refuting the lie that the Qur'an tells us about the atom and this time even google verified a bogus translation [669 words]dhimmi no moreJul 7, 2020 08:17259402
1The words بدوي or Bedouin and البادية or al-Badiyya Part 2 [170 words]dhimmi no moreJul 8, 2020 14:03259402
Who is Semitic and Who is Not and Why It Matters [229 words]M ToveyAug 27, 2020 15:11259402
1Carl Becker: Historical continuity v discontinuity, the "Semites", al-Hijra or is it the "Year of the Arab Kings"! [785 words]dhimmi no moreAug 28, 2020 14:53259402
1Frankfurter: Identity, Ideology and Iconoclasm! [278 words]dhimmi no moreAug 31, 2020 06:35259402
Finding the True Source of All Human Mysteries [363 words]M ToveyAug 31, 2020 16:08259402
الاسلام دين ودولة or In Islam there is no separation of the sacred and the profane and more Deen! [570 words]dhimmi no moreSep 1, 2020 17:35259402
Respect for Law – Legal Obedience or Totalitarian Subjugation [552 words]M ToveySep 2, 2020 17:10259402
الاسلام دين ودولة and errors in the book of al-Deen? How did the Islamic tradition deal with grammatical mistakes in the Qur'an! [373 words]dhimmi no moreSep 4, 2020 13:54259402
End Times Exegesis – Reading Signs of Reality [572 words]M ToveySep 6, 2020 21:13259402
الاسلام دين ودولة and the OTHER! [474 words]dhimmi no moreSep 8, 2020 16:55259402
الاسلام دين ودولة and the OTHER or the apostate! [327 words]dhimmi no moreSep 9, 2020 07:51259402
Conflicting Theosophies Coming in Full Circle [771 words]M ToveySep 9, 2020 14:42259402
1In memory of the victims of the 9/11 atrocity committed by Islamists. Islam and the Yazidis [232 words]dhimmi no moreSep 11, 2020 09:13259402
1In memory of the victims of the 9/11 atrocity committed by Islamists. What do Islamists and the "Wokeists" have in common? [110 words]dhimmi no moreSep 11, 2020 10:37259402
Here is a link to Ayaan Hirsi Ali's article in the WSJ [5 words]dhimmi no moreSep 11, 2020 10:39259402
4NAACP and the "incidence"? and the "ratio" is not far behind [87 words]dhimmi no moreSep 11, 2020 14:10259402
9In memory of the victims of the atrocity in Benghazi, Libya 2012 [124 words]dhimmi no moreSep 12, 2020 10:06259402
2Memories Forgotten by Some for Political Expedience [86 words]M ToveySep 13, 2020 14:40259402
الاسلام دين ودولة and the OTHER and المثليين or LGBT and the bizarre relationship between the regressive left and Islam! [523 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2020 10:17259402
Irreconcilable Differences of Humanistic Rules for Society [628 words]M ToveySep 21, 2020 17:40259402
Islam and the OTHERS: Non Muslims, Women, Reason, LGBT, Racial Minorities [303 words]dhimmi no moreSep 22, 2020 21:02259402
1M Tovy, Addendum: Islam and the OTHER: Ali Dashti, the Quranic Masoretic exegesis and وشهد شاهد من اهلها [247 words]dhimmi no moreSep 23, 2020 08:28259402
Religious Discrimination for Wrong Reasoning by Quran? [214 words]M ToveySep 23, 2020 15:49259402
venomous birds of a feather [52 words]Charles MartelJun 24, 2020 10:56259395
The Jebusites dwell with the children of Judah at Jerusalem unto this day. [94 words]Matthew CoreyJun 24, 2020 01:40259391
The descendants of Jebusites are Jews today. [62 words]AVJun 26, 2020 00:44259391
Jordan is foolish to antagonize Israel [230 words]DaveJun 23, 2020 17:11259387
1The US Presidential Election is Soon [41 words]Barry BlackJun 23, 2020 14:12259383
Some are Not Willing to Wait That Long [156 words]M ToveyJun 23, 2020 16:46259383
1Moderate and extreme mendacity [46 words]MalcolmJun 23, 2020 04:11259378
Roman Conquest Basis for Arab Claim? [98 words]M ToveyJun 23, 2020 01:10259376

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)