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الاسلام دين ودولة and the OTHER and المثليين or LGBT and the bizarre relationship between the regressive left and Islam!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 19, 2020 at 10:17

Dr Pipes,

The readers should be aware of the very tragic life of an Egyptian lesbian who was chased out of Egypt and then she moved to Toronto, Canada and she committed suicide in June 2020. She missed her family, friends and her country. But again Islam and Islamists are not friends of LGBT.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/sarah-hegazi-death-1.5614698

The word "gay" in today's Arabic is المثليين and it is derived from the Arabic word مثل or "Same/like" In classical Arabic it is اللوطي (derived from the Biblical as well as Quranic fable of لوط (Syriac/Aramaic ܠܘܛ or Lut/Lot, Hebrew Lot)

Muhammad and his God disapprove of homosexuality. Why? We are never told more so when Allah is the one who plans every thing in our lives. So Sarah was a lesbian because Allah is the one who made her a lesbian! But again Muhammad and his God were poor theologians.

So, what does the Qur'an tell us about the punishment of LGBT? In Surat al-Nisa' 15 and 16 the author of the Quran opines about punishment of gays and lesbians and it is as follows:

1. Lesbians: Find 4 witnesses that have seen the sexual act if found "guilty" then isolate the lesbians in their homes until they die! So much for Allah al-Rahman al-Rahim who plans every thing.

2. Gays: The punishment is فأذوهما or harm them. But the Qur'an does not tell how! al-Mufasereen come to the rescue and tell us that may be Allah is saying to beat them with sandals (yes beat them with sandals) and demand that they repent. The amazing Allah

Here is a link to the verses and Tafsir al-Qurtubi

https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/qortobi/sura4-aya16.html

However, the Muslim 'Ulama invent more ways to harm gays and lesbians based of the Quranic word فأذوهما or harm them (see the link below from the Egyptian al-Youm al-Sabi').

We are told that: الفقهاء اجمعوا على قتل من يقوم بفعل قوم لوط or: The Muslim doctors of law agreed that punishment is killing anyone who does what the people of Lot/Lut did.

And as usual in Islam Muslim scholars never agree and they اختلفوا في طريقة قتله or the Ulama disagreed about how to kill him/her.

And here is what they recommended:

1. يرمى به من اعلى شاهق or he should be dropped from the highest structure (mountain or building)! And this is how Dae'sh punished gays.

2. يرمى به من اعلى شاهق ويتبع بالحجارة or same as in 1 then he will be stoned!

Absolute barbarians!

3. يرجم بالحجارة حتى يموت or stoning until he dies

Disgusting barbarians

4. يقتل على اي حال كان or kill him by any method (burning, crucifixion etc..) . Here sky in the limit for the barbarity

Here is the link. I urge readers to use googletranslate this is modern Arabic and googletranslate is not bad for modern Arabic

https://www.youm7.com/story/2017/9/30/%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%B1%D8%A3%D9%89-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%82%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D9%81%D9%89-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%88%D9%81%D9%82%D9%8B%D8%A7-%D9%84%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9/3435038

It is all in black and white. So my question to the regressive left and to the "allies" of Islamists in the LGBT community: Why do you support the intolerant and those vile islamists that cause so much harm to members of your community as in the case of Sarah Hegazy?

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