Nuray: context is important

Submitted by Peter (Canada), Nov 17, 2005 at 10:30

In the following reply to Uday you say:

"Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it,
and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which
is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know. (216)

but there should be a war with a decent reason between two countries as described in the verse below"

The Quran does not say it is between two countries. This is a war of believers vs. unbelievers according to the Quran. The verse that procedes the verse you quote above is:
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult or oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith."

What is a trangressor according to the Quran? An unbeliever. Therefore, you should kill me because I am an unbeliever. often people are decieved in believing a religion because verses are taken out of context or the words are redefined in order to acheive their goals. Jihad has been redefined by moderate Muslims in order to fit the culture and look peaceful. That was not the orginal intent. Mohammed fought, and it was not country against country but it was against the unbelievers, which were robbed and killed. Changing the meaning to fit todays culture does not change what Mohammed did. Allah is a god of war. As I quoted the Quran in my previous message, it clearly is the intent of Mohammed to have a physical war, not preaching as you indicated. Please read the quotes.

You claim Jesus was a messenger of Allah, yet you believe nothing that He says. As for Jesus confirming Allah, this was never true. Jesus said, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."

He did not come like Mohammed to fight. Jesus said, "John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

Please respond.

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