Nuray: We do not believe in the same God

Submitted by Peter (Canada), Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16

Nuray;

Just a couple of comments:
I wrote that
"with repetitive prayers five times a day, helps you believe that it is true when it is not. That is how brainwashing is done." The focus of my statement was the word "repetitive". If you just repeat the same thing over and over again, whether it makes sense or not, you will eventually believe it. That is what brainwashing is. I am not against praying five times a day. As a matter of fact, the Bible says to "pray continously". That means believers in Jesus Christ have an open communication with God our Father. It's a relationship, far better than mandated repetitive prayers. I did that as a boy in a mainline Christian denomination and it did nothing except believe me to think I was pleasing God by good works and prayers. It wasn't pleasing God because I had no relationship with Him. Since I became a true Christian, now I pray in conversation with my Lord, speaking to Him in a relationship, not in repetitions at particular times of the day.

Jesus said in Matthew 6:7 says this about repetitive prayers, "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

I wrote that
"I can understand why you will not address the Quran quotes. "
You said: "I didn't get it what you meant. If you make it clear I can tell about those quoting."
If you check back to the quotations I made regarding the Quran and Hadith, you did not comment on them. My question is, if Mohammed is your leader and he promoted violence in the Quran and the Hadith, would it be reasonable to say a true Muslim would follow him and do what he told them to do? Look back at the verses I quoted in previous messages. Jesus did not promote violence, nor did He believe in a rebellion to force a state religion. See previous quote in previous message which you did not comment on. He came to pay the penalty of our sin, not to have war with the unbelievers. Explain to me, that if Mohammed believed Jesus was a messenger from God, why did he want to bring people under the law when Jesus said He already fulfilled the law? We are no longer under law but grace. Mohammed contradicted everything Jesus said. That is why I encourage you to read the Gospels right through. These are Matthew, Mark, Luke and especially John. Don't take verses out of context, but read it as a message from God. Isn't that what Mohammed said Jesus is, a messenger from God? Then take what He said seriously.

You said:
"I am very sorry to read your email to Naqvi who says arguing with blindfaithers is a waste of time. I wish you could wait for my response first before deciding to be agree with Naqvi."
I said this because that is how I am feeling too and it sounds like he is right. Everything I ask you to explain from the Quran, you do not reply to them. Your responses are exactly what he said. I know other missionaries from countries that are predominately Muslim, they say the same thing. I know of a young man who became a Christian through a missionary and his Muslim "friends" and relatives beat him so badly, he became severely disabled and almost died. That is why Jesus said in Luke 14:26-27, "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me, he cannot be My disciple." He is not actually meaning to hate and kill, He is saying that comparatively speaking, put Jesus Christ first and if your relatives or friends reject you, so be it. Follow Christ. In no way does He promote violence or any thing else towards them. If they reject Him, it is their choice. It is not forced, as with Islamic State Law. Don't say I am political because that was your explaination to why Mohammed killed, to get land to enforce state law.
This story from the missionary is not an isolated story and it is not from the media. I know these missionaries and they have a heart for the Muslim people but hate the Muslim faith because what it does to the people. You cannot force a belief system on people by law and expect them to believe. That is what an Islamic state law does. That is why Mohammed warred against the Jews and are at war now with "unbelievers". Many were killed in Sudan, not for politacal reasons but for not denying their Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.The Roman Catholic Crusaders were wrong too. They also tried to forced their verson of Christianity and they also burned and killed many true Christians in the process. That is not what Christ taught.

He came to "seek and to save that which is lost." not by force but by giving of Himself to pay the price for your sin and mine.

Peter

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