Support for Nuray on these issues.

Submitted by John Bastile (Malaysia), Jan 24, 2006 at 10:04

Nuray,

You made several good comments.

Comment #1
"First of all, we need to distinguish religion from politics"

Yes, you are right. I support you. That makes the two of us in promoting that all countries should ban Sharia laws. That's because Sharia laws are religion based. These inhumane laws should not be used to influence political decisions.

Comment #2
"People usually feed their brains with the title of media news, what a pity for intelligent persons at 21st century."

You are right again. That makes the two of us in blaming Arabic media in potraying Jews and infidels being decendants of apes and pigs. Furthermore, I support you in calling the Palastinian media from promoting suicide bombing via children's cartoon shows. Children should not be made to wear toy suicide belts and be paraded on the streets.

Comment #3
"Don't you have an ability to understand history and politics as good as a media reporter? "

Yes, you are right. Therefore, we should be able to understand Islamic history more. But, who's teaching us? You?

Comment #4
Any Muslim can use be good product consumer like any others? Machines are not designed according to religions.

Yes, you are right. Please continue to use these products. However, please do not claim that the Quran inspired these inventions. It's quite a trend that muslims tend to make claims long after issues were discovered. We know that the world is round some time ago. If you are to start claiming that the Quran actually said so, I appreciate it if you could show proof that muslims in the past were actually claiming it. I mean, you pretty much lose credibility after a few centuries of known science.

Comment #5
No need to be racist. I have no idea how this mind disease would be cured.

Nuray, is Islam a race? Why do you call people who are wary of Islam racists?

Comment #7
No one can be allowed to change one word of Quran.

You don't need to. The book contains so many contradictory statements that you just need to be a good spin doctor in deciding which one abrogates the other. Since you got rid of the hadiths, the job of spinning is much easier. In fact, you did that by claiming that the verse "Kill all Jews and infidels" came first before "There is no compulsion in religion". We can learn Islam according to Nuray.

However, Nuray. Be careful. Someone called Mohammed Taha tried that two decades ago. He was sentenced to death as a apostate. Yes, Nuray, muslims kill apostates. It's legal in many muslim countries.

Comment #8
Muslims are not poor. Majority of Muslim countries have medium HDI. They will continue to develop.

Yes, Nuray. I can see long lines at the Sudanese embassies. People are fighting to seek citizenships. I can see the envy in many Europeans when we talk about Islamic justice in Pakistan and Iran.

Comment #9
But racist mind put religion at every measure.

Once again. Is Islam a race? I understand that muslims have to play victimology. You have to be oppressed.That's because, your holy verse said "do not kill unless you are oppressed". I urge you to at least have the common sense to choose your "oppression" properly. Please think.

Comment #10
Muslims are not racist. Nothing can cure racism other than Islam.

Yes, you are right. In fact, Muhammed was not racist as well. Here's proof:

Bukhari:V2B23N457 "The Prophet went out after sunset and heard a dreadful voice. He said, ‘The Jews are being punished in their graves.'"

There's another proof that Muhammed made no racist comment in the Quran nad Hadiths:

Ishaq:243 "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful punishment." [Surah 9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"


Moreover, Muhammed was not a sexist as well. Here's proof:

Volume 7, Book 64, Number 280 (Bukhari):
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
"My father died and left seven or nine girls and I married a matron. Allah's Apostle (Muhammed) said to me, "O Jabir! Have you married?" I said, "Yes." He said, "A virgin or a matron?" I replied, "A matron." he said, "Why not a virgin, so that you might play with her and she with you, and you might amuse her and she amuse you?"

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