No really Faisal, it's all linked

Submitted by PCMadness (New Zealand), May 26, 2006 at 16:57

"Submitted by Faisal, May 25, 2006 at 10:31

Well my friend you seem to be disturbed a lot by my post , and i didnt say anything about west or immigration and all that , I just told about the social problems of west which are in east too but they are different . You are saying about freedom and i too agreed that freedom is there in west alot compare to other parts of the world.

My point of just this , freedom is there but its above the Commandments of God why ? single mom , homosexuality , lesbians even when its there in Bible about the destruction of the peoples of Lut .why such laws are passed in america even when its against the Bible ."

I wasn't disagreeing with your comment that there are social problems in the West, but it is all linked. Do you think that western nations are not aware of their "problems"? far from it. But it's the constant slighting of the western culture that I object to. Could it be that it is because this is all you hear from your Imams and clerics? You in fact did exactly the same. You highlighted western problems, western depravity and bundled westerners neatly into that category. Only now do you mention eastern problems.

What I was trying to get at was you see westerners trying to impose their way on eastern/muslim countries which is what I interpreted when you said .....

"Westerns and Europeans never understand Islam or east , they see very thing like west , and want every thing should be like west ,nothing wrong in that but still its better to not comment on others."

So I flipped it around, hence my reference to muslims in Europe who are trying to impose Muslim ways on western culture, who want everything east......which is why I can comment on muslims.

However, You once again show the total incompatability between muslim and non-muslim cultures..... it is blindingly apparent every time a muslim comments here.

"There are enormous problems in this world specailly in west too , like single mom , church abuses , homosex , lesbians and no marriages too even when these are against Law of God ,even when they saw the punishment on those in Bible too . Why my friends dont spend energies in these problems and stop commenting on Muslims."

1. Many people don't believe in God or have any religion. So in their eyes they are doing nothing wrong as long as they don't break any laws of the land.

2. Many single mothers would be offended by your suggestion that they are a problem. for many it is a matter of choice and preferred lifestyle

3. Homosexuality and lesbianism are as old as prostitution,which is the oldest profession, in fact as old as humanity itself, except prostitution is a choice. Most people don't have much choice over their sexuality.

4. Most western countries are not governed by the "Law of God" unlike dictatorial islamic states. Government is seperated from religion.

For you, as it is for most muslims it is black and white, there is no choice, there is the word of Allah........

You believe what you believe. 1.2 billion of you believe that Islam is the way, but that does not make the other 4 billion people in the world wrong.

Until the muslim community realises that there are going to be big problems

The islamic world seems to be going through exactly the same issues communist Russia went through. You are frightened to death of giving choice to people because you know that they may well choose a different path. Communist Russia prevented western pop music from being played because they knew the young people would see that there is far more out there and revolt against the establishment. (very simplistic I know ). You are prisoners behind the wall of a dictatorial religion.

Back to my reference to immigration, bearing in mind all I have just said and in reference to your statement "Westerns and Europeans never understand Islam or east". Interesting comment. Even within our own borders we have to understand Islam and the East. This is bringing me back to the immigration. Westerners, by the very nature of the society we live in, compromise to accommodate every other race or religion, whereas it is evident that muslims are not prepared to compromise anything at all. This nicely links back to incomaptabilities between Islam and the West.

I reckon it's time we stopped compromising and started imposing a few boundaries.

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