To PCMadness : Answers_2 : God don't force humans why should I ?

Submitted by Nuray (Germany), Jun 15, 2006 at 12:20

• So do I but if you know God is there and you 'feel it' what use is the Quran? If everyone felt God the same way why label it with a religion like Islam or Christianity? You will know by your feelings if you are doing right or wrong. You are putting a lot of trust in a book written by man! Why not use your feelings instead as your moral barometer?

It is a fact that human beings have tendency to believe in God. They feel God it doesn't matter what religion they have. This is because there is only one God. When people think about God they are connected to the same source.

Religion is very important issue. It is not possible to say "just follow your hearth or what logic tells you ". It is not an daily matter. Haven't you done many things that were totally wrong but you felt very good at that time? Religion or rules of Allah is above the feelings, desires or wishful thinkings.

I can decide easily what is wrong, what is right . In other words, I can create and use my own moral barometer, if I have to. I exist because God created me. I don't say God exist for me. I follow God, not other way around. I don't expect a personal copy from God.

• The key word you used here was 'BELIEVE' I'm having a similar discussion with Saladin further down this post. That's all it boils down to......belief. So therefore, who is right? Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Bhuddists???? You only believe that you are right, and the next believes he is right....etc. If you are adamant you are right how will you prove it?

That's right the bottom line is belief. Religion is not like science, There is no cristal clear proof for any religion. If everthing was clear there were no need for any religion.

We have freedom to choose and intelligent enough which religion is right or wrong path. Life is a serous game designed by God. I am responsible from all my behaviours. I choose to be a Muslim. This is my decision. If I am wrong I will pay the price after life.

• This is where mulsims start to sound a bit arrogant.

1. You 'BELIEVE' that other religions are flawed.

Who made those religions flawed....God or man. I don't believe that God would make a flawed religion....why would he.

2. You assume that Islam is right. I think you'll find that many people feel that Islam is flawed. Only muslims feel that it isn't flawed.

3. Muslims assume Mohammad was the last messenger.......... Only until the next one comes along.....!!!

We Muslims don't add anything to what is written in Quran. Allah says they failed. It is judgement of Allah not ours. Humans have very complex nature. There many thing or motives that drive our behaviours. Human nature is more close to denying rules, not obeying them completely. Many books with messenger are sent by God. This is an education process. Earth has an age of 1 billion years. We believe that no more messenger will come. If someone claims so he will be sent to hospitals :-)

• The 'BELIEVE' count is mounting so I do think it makes you a blind believer. That aside, shouldn't we all be vegetarian then. Are we aware of God, or do we all need something to BELIEVE to help us get through the day, your inner voice that keeps you going.

All we are aware of God. All we follow either pure religious rules or our own rules fitted to our desires. I don't trust my inner voice it tells me what I want to hear.

• "So there's only one God, so all religions must worship the same God, yes?" Exactly.

Hmmm.....so what's the beef between religions?

We humans don't know how to share anything. We love nature but nature dies as time passes. How are we going to survive without earth. We know this but continue destroying nature. We know very well that there can't be more than one God but we need something to keep fighting for land, natural resources etc,

• But that's not what you originally said. You said originally. "We have freedom. We suffer from the decisions we made. God don't impose any rule over us. Allah says Quran is an advice for us. "

So I ask again why would God let a good person die in a fireball when a terrorist nutter flies a plane into the building he works in. Or a new born baby dying of sudden infant death syndrome. It had nothing to do with a decision they made....that is where your answer is flawed. The person at the controls of that plane made the decision for those people in those buildings. If God did then it's not a God worth following.

Let me explain what I meant by "No one has power to decide where, when and how to die. This is the decision of God. Who can judge God?" All we have freedom to choose. We won't to choose to die if not mentally ill. All we like to survive and live longer. But this doesn't mean that we won't die because of other's actions. Only some lucky people dies from natural aging.

God is not the one who is going to save lives of many innocents. All we are responsible from the actions of bad people. We have to stop them. Babies are not dying from simple disease any more. If a baby dies from hunger in Africa should we blame God ? Don't forget God doesn't exist for us.

Some people easily escapes from natural disasters. Newspaper full of survivors stories. That's why I believe my life is in the hands of Allah. I want to live longer not to repeat the same mistakes and change myself as much as possible. This can happen if Allah gives that opportunity. If I die today I will have no time to learn not to do many things.

• What happens to the othe 5 billion people who aren't muslims? Becasue it's very arrogant to say that only Mulsims will enter heaven.......don't you think? That's after you've just acknowledged that all religions worship the same God. Unless of course you are suggesting that every none muslim on the planet is a muslim really, but without knowing it.......??????

I am not the judge. It is the responsibility of Creator what to do with those who didn't follow the right path. How can Quran say that all religious people will enter to heaven? if I am not one of the followers of Quran why should I be given free excess to heaven? it is a simple logic. I agree that there is only one God. The perception the same God from one religion to other is different. The problem starts from this issue.

• The book says so....you BELIEVE end of story. Fine but it is your personal belief that shoudl not be forced on anyone who doesn't want it.

I am totally agree with it. My belief is only for me. I have no right to force anybody to follow the path I followed. If someone denies God he won't die. God don't force humans why should I ?

Allah says Quran is an advice. I have taken the advice. This is the one of the reason why I am Muslim.

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