Jesus, the Son of YAHWEY is our true God

Submitted by true believer (India), Jun 26, 2006 at 08:48

>>You Said "Nothing has changed since the death of Jesus."

Things have really changed after Jesus came to earth, but you have not seen it. It has changed for me. I was myself born in a Christian family raised in the so called Christian tradition, going to mass on sundays, observing the lents, fasts and holy days, but untill I accepted Jesus ar my personal saviour, I was struggling with evil. Some people call this "being born again". Belonging to a religion and defending a dogma vis -a -vis having true faith in true God are two very different things. Miracles and are being even today just in the name of Jesus. I am simply telling you what my eyes have seen and ears have heard.

>>You said "People are still sinful and unfaithful before and after Jesus"

Yes they are , but salvation is open to them. Man is weak as he was before, and as the Bible says the wages of sin is death. This death is not the physical death as we understand but eternal separation from God. In olden days the Jews used to offer a lamb without any defects as sin offering and believed that the sacrifice of the lamb would bring forgiveness for their sins.It was called the "sin" offering. After the death of Jesus on the cross everything changed. Jesus himself became that final sacrifice, ( a lamb without any defects ) so that the sin of humankind were forgiven. So man has the power to overcome sin, provided he believes in the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus made for him. That is why bible says.

John 1:29 The next day John [John the baptist] saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

>>You said about Jesus "He didn't claim himself as God. Bible never justifies trinity. It is a man-made theory"

Please go through the bible verses given below.

Exodus 30:13 Then Moses said to God, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, ‘What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"
Exodus 30:14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.'"
Exodus 30:15 Moreover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.'

John 8:54 Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.
John 8:55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word.
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."
John 8:57 Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

Read my post http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/46455 for more information.

The bible has many references to the Messiah or the chosen one, and it was prophesised by the prophet Isaiah 800 years befort the birth of Jesus on earth in human form.

Isaiah 53:1 Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
Isaiah 53:2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.
Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
Isaiah 53:4 Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
Isaiah 53:5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
Isaiah 53:9 And they[a] made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.
Isaiah 53:11 He shall see the labor of His soul,[b]and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.
Isaiah 53:12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.

What I have quoted above are a part of the Jewish sacred scriptures, butmany of the Jews themselves never understood it.

>>You said "What a humiliation for God."

This is the most difficult part to understand. You know, my own father is a very righteous man. He never took any bribes from anybody in his whole life, never hurt any one knowingly. He was a perfect father. He never asked anybody anything. in fact, he was a very PROUD man. When I finished my schooling and had to go for pre university, back then we had a system of going to different colleges and collecting admision forms. There was no centralized admission system or common entrance exams here back then. We arrived late in one of the best colleges nearby and the person at counter for distributing forms stopped issuing them by then, in fact it was the last day for issuing forms. I was shocked to see that my father literally begging with the person at the counter to get an admission form. I have seen him go broke, but he never stretched out his hand before others. He was repeatedly pleading with the man at the counter but his pleas fell on deaf ears. I myself felt very bad. Later I asked him "What made you do it ? It was so humiliating ? Why did you have to do it ?" He simply said "I did it for you and I would do it again if required". I got admission somewhere else. He endured the humiliation only because he loved me and wanted good things for me. Well my own father is only human and his love has limits, but the love of my Heavenly Father that I accept as my God, does not have any limits. God is nothing but love and it is that love that binds us to him. This is the way I understand my God.

Though I know that God and your God is the same, I believe that it is is not Allah.Think about it Nuray, If Mohammed and Jesus, both were really Allah's messengers their teachings and actions would NOT have been diametrically opposite to each other. Read the New testament Bible and compare both the teachings for yourself. I leave it to your modern mind to decide.

In peace.

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