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Turkish jihad against history or how " gazi" from "jihadist" became "a soldier who got wounded in a war" .Reader comment on item: How to End Terrorism: Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Mar 26, 2009 at 14:54 sozekujan wrote : > ... first ghazi means (soldier who got wounded in a war) < First of all, the Encyclopedia of the Turkish language knows nothing of this alleged meaning at all. http://ansiklopedi.turkcebilgi.com/gazi In fact "gazi" means "a jihadist" and comes from the noun "gazavat" which is the same as "jihad" - "the holy islamic war against the kafirs(gavurlar)". Islamic theologians and scholars are even more specific in defining the word . In his "Iskander-namhe" Turkish poet Taceddin Ibrahim Ahmedi (c. 1334-1413) after explaining why the gazi state was established among the Turks asks "Who is a ghazi ?" and replies : " A ghazi is the one who spreads the religion of Allah. He is Allah's servant who purges the earth of the stinking garbage of polytheism. A ghazi is a sword in Allah's hand. He is a defender and a shelter for the faithful (Moslems). If he dies a martyr's death on the path of Allah he is not said to be dead. He lives on in the bliss and happiness of Allah. He has earned an eternal life." ( After P.Wittek, The rise of the Ottoman empire, London 1963, p.30-31) Both the Ottoman and Kemalist despotisms were founded on the jihadist-ghazi ideology. Osman's authentic inscription from 1337 in the mosque in Prusa calls him : "A sultan, a son of the sultan of the ghazis, himself a ghazi, a son of a ghazi, a ruler of the horizons..." As to Kemal's gazavat=jihad it is almost superfulous to explain why he was accorded the same title. He purged Anatolia of the stinking garbage of Christianity by exterminating the Greeks and the few Armenians who had survived the 1915 wholesale slaughters. To do that pious job he allied himself with the most obscurantist, backward and reactionary forces of Islam in Eastern Anatolia and atheist Soviet communism. Later when he changed his mind on "the bliss and happiness of Allah" and realized that being "a sword in Allah's hand" was not necessarily so wise and useful he ruthlessly persecuted anyone who dared remind him of his evil past. So the Kemalist gazavat was silenced and "the war of independence" came to the fore. The word "ghazi" was as criminalized just as wearing a fez. Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha could lie as much as he wished. After the show trials and assassinations of his opponents no one dared to contradict him openly . Yet his new secularist lies didn't change the history or his role as the defender of Islam and destroyer of Christianity in Turkey. If Turkey is today a 99,8% Moslem monoculture (and an anti-American, anti-Semitic stronghold at that) it's thanks to him and his gazavat. Sure, there was one more essential difference between Ghazi Kemal with Ghazi Osman. Ghazi Kemal's other godfather was Soviet communism. Osman was just a vasal of the Seljuks. > second what genocide r u talking about, at the times turks were fighting with greeks(who were backed up in every way by england, french...)and greek army was trying to get a very big piece of anatolia (they were thinking that it would be so easy cos they had all the weapons,logistic and whatever they needed , whereas turks didnt have that much power or technology) by the way u can actually watch the videos of turkish women and kids carrying guns or bombs on their back to the turkish soldiers from miles away)< Nice to notice that you're so good at repeating faithfully Turkish propaganda. It's a pity though that you failed to preface your dogmatic and ridiculous statements with an honest remark that in Turkey any opinion diverging from the official propganda version is criminalized and persecuted. Doubting the official propaganda in public can get you an imprisonment sentence of 3 years' duration in Turkey. I know it's hard but under these conditions you have to understand that whatever a Turk repeats can be thrown into a dust bin beforehand. No free discussion is possible with slaves. But as far as history is concerned it is not the oppressed women treated by the Turkish men not much better than the cattle or the illiterate Anatolian peasants despised by Ottoman pashas and effendis and filmed by the Soviet propaganda units attached to Kemal's troops but Vladimir Ilich Lenin's military and financial aid that saved Kemal's regime from certain ruin in 1920-1922. It is general Mikhail Frunze (honorary citizen of the Turkish Republic) , Serghey Aralov , Kemal's best friend (founder of the Soviet Military Intelligence) and a plethora of others as well as a mountain of Soviet gold that bribed the Italians and the French to sell military equipment to Kemal and to betray the Entente at whose mandate the Greek forces were entrusted the mission to see to it that the stipulations of the Mudros armistice and the later regulations concerning Turkey were implemented. The Greek offensive against Ancara was approved by the Entente. So it wasn't a Greek-Turkish war in 1919-1920. It was a Turkish-Entente war. It was the worst possible war where any decisions made in London were next day known to Ancara. As to genocides, it's interesting to learn that in Smyrna the Turks slaughtered also a number of Americans and other neutrals, not just the Armenians whom they prefered to burn alive in their churches and Greeks whom they massacred on the quay. And they burned the city long after the last Greek soldier had left it. It explains well why the Turkish quarters were left intact although allegedly the Greeks had set fire to the city. Anyway, not a single Turk was ever tried for the atrocities committed en masse before the eyes of the entire world while for the riots in May 1919 in the same city of Smyrna a number of Greeks were executed. Strange contrast, what? It's the contrast between civilization and the Turanian Kemalist beast. Every Islamic holy war ends with a 3-day holy massacres in the conquered kafiri city and ghazi Kemal couldn't break the holy rule. His secularism was not yet born at that early age and his hatred of the Greek infidels was as intense as his great predecessor Ghazi Osman's. > but great turkish people beat ... greeks and they ran away back to greece and they burned down the cities (lots of turks died) ATATURK said this"i am not ordering you to fight a am ordering you to die"that why we re a great nation with great soldiers >.. I'd like to remind you again of the physical dangers you're incurring in Turkey if you might question those recycled Turkish propaganda rubbish you are throwing at my face as the revealed Quranic truths. They are nonsensical slogans that glorify the primitive narcissits Turkish soul. Essentially, it was the bolshevik-Islamist conspiracy reinforced by Italy's and France's defection of teh Entente cause and in the last analysis by the grave Greek blunders in 1920-1921 that made Kemal's victory possible. Turkish heroism was a later invention. It served the well-meaning purpose to obliterate too many unpleasant and shameful recent facts like e.g. the mutual slaughterings between the followers of the caliph and Kemal during the Turkish civil war, defections of troops, mass executions of deserters by Kemalists, perfidious intrigues in Kemal's narrow entourage which Aralov repeatedly mentions in his memoirs, unreliability and distrust of the pashas, effendis, hojas, sheikhs, mullah against bolshevizing Kemal and his Soviet advisors and his communist speeches. By the way, for the views Kemals expressed in conversations with Aralov in today's Turkey Kemal would be hanged on the gate of his own mausoleum. >go and learn some history dude< I learned my history classes very well. I even got a degree in history , if you want to know. But I am curious about your qualifications, you Turkish lie machine. "great turkish people"... What contribution did these 'great turkish people" make to world civilization ? Nothing , absolutely at all except destruction of civilization, barbarity, gazavat, robbing kafirs' children, enslavement and forced Islamization in south-eastern Europe !!! All European languages are still bearing testimony to what sort of primitive bloodthirsty monsters the Turks were intending to impose Islam's death cult upon the civilized nations up to the shores of the Atlantic and the Baltic seas. Here are some Turkish 'contributions' we have - "horde", "janissary", "devshirme"(blood tax), "genocide" ... Kemalist or Ottoman, Turkey is still a malignant cancer on Europe's borders and her 'great' people belong to where they once came from to destroy civilization - to the lower banks of the Syr Darya. Submitting....
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