typical

Submitted by susan (Italy), Dec 22, 2006 at 17:46

"The Arabs had a very strong tradition that one who can smite with the spear and can wield the sword would inherit "

yes, islam and the sword, a perfect match, tell us something we don't know already

"But Islam came as the defender of the weaker sex and entitled women to share the inheritance of their parents."

exactly, like nowadays according to sharia law the testify of a woman is worth the half of a man. Good defence!!!!!

"It gave women, centuries ago right of owning property"

what do I care to own a property when I cannot walk around alone without a male escort? what do I do with a property when my testimony in trial is worth the half of a man?

Do you know why islam allowed properties for women? because since women are worth less than breeding cattle, at least with a property they are worth something when they are sold by their parents.

"Then if we turn to the Qur'an, we find an image of Godhead apophatically stripped of metaphor. God is simply Allah, the God; never Father. The divine is referred to by the masculine pronoun: Allah is He (huwa); but the grammarians and exegetes concur that this is not even allegoric: Arabic has no neuter, and the use of the masculine is normal in Arabic for genderless nouns. No male preponderance is implied, any more than feminity is implied by the grammatically female gender of neuter plurals."

yes, i bet that 1 billion muslims think of hahallah as a female

"For the Shari‘a, the word made Book is open to female touch and cantillation."

Yeah, I see millions of female imams, what do you call them? IMAMAS? Right, all the prominent religious figures in islam are women, how could i not notice

"And you claim Islam thinks of women as having half a brain?"

I haven't been denied on a single point.

"‘If U.S. and European historians feel a need to reconstruct women's history because women are invisible in the traditional sources, Islamic scholars are faced with a plethora of source material that has only begun to be studied. [ . . . ] In reading the biographies of thousands of Muslim women scholars, one is amazed at the evidence that contradicts the view of Muslim women as marginal, secluded, and restricted.'"

oh, that's why all the mullahs, scholars, imams, vizir and caliphs are females.

"But since they put a mild punishment for the offenders, the family now forces the girl to suicide, so they won't get guilty."

"This is laughable, .... "...

"And the only thing that you are telling me is that there is a family in Turkey that is crazy and should still keep learning about what Islam is. "

you don't understand the rampant phenomenons, you consider it a single episode, yet the western chronicles are full of those stories, of muslims forcing marriages and forcing suicide. Muslims are less than 5% of population but are 90% responsible of honor killings, a phenomenon that disappeared decades ago in western lands or that never was.

"Men are biologically designed to desire a plurality of women, and, unless we can carry out some radical genetic engineering work, they will always do so. "

what differs the man from animal is the intellect and capacity to share right from wrong,. It's fun that you talk about biology, let me explain something about the biology you don't know. It's widely known that women living together tend to synchronize their period, therefore, the typical muslim "male" that has 4 women will beforced to restrain from sex with all of them because at a certain point all of them will have their period (or fertile period) at the same time.

So the typical concept of muslim family is against the biological need of mating with multiple partners (to have them all available at all time), which would guarantee the specie to go on.

The same thing is not a problem following the concept of having multiple sex partners but NOT living together with them. Which is also a guarantee that the female is free to have multiple male partners if she wants.

So it's fair to say that the muslim interpretation of the biological concept of needing multiple females is AGAINST biology itself.

It only fulfils your poor ego, sexual impotency and power trip about controlling people around you, because you are too weak to do anything.

"Muslims regard as an absurdity the present arrangement in the West where consensual relationships of all kinds are allowed and even militantly defended: homosexual, lesbian, and so on; whereas a consensual ménage a trois is still regarded as immoral."

as i explained to you the absurdity is the bilogical fallacy of the muslim way. Secondly, muslim people and yourself should restrain talking about morality in every sense of the word, because you idolize an old demented man that sexually abused a child.

That is more immoral than any act performed by consensual mature enough partners

"The last hangover of Victorian morality? In fact, a menage a trois is perfectly acceptable in modern Western law, as long as the parties to it live ‘in sin' and do not attempt to marry. The absurdity of this position requires no comment."

biologically it's correct and the admirers of a pedo-pornographer are not in the position to judge morality

"While men are allowed to marry up to four wives, they are also commanded to meet the preconditions of being able to financially support them. They must also deal with each wife justly and fairly with respect to marital and economic obligations."

I am sure they do (sarcasm mode turned off)

that's why we learn of so many cases of muslim man dropping financially NOT supporting not even one wife when they get rid of her.

"Moreover, women can reject any marriage proposal made to her by prospective suitors, thus if she does not feel she can abide by the rules of the Qur'an and Sunnah if she marries a certain person, she can reject his proposal. "

oooh, that's why we learn of those many Pakistani girls sent home to marry cousins.

"While it is irrelevant to Islam, it is worthwhile to note that both Judaism and Christianity allow polygamy. The idea is not as foreign to the non-Muslims as is often claimed."

too bad our laws are not taken from a 2000 year old book, too bad we have been too intelligent not to let a death cult like yours to rule over law.

"On this basis, Shafi‘i jurists defend the woman's right not to perform housework. "

that's why islam allows to have slaves.

"But divorce isn't really something that any religion would adhere to, just ask the pope whether he has agreed to any divorces lately. "

why do you always have to come up with comparisons with christianity? Islam has nothing to do with the other major or minor religions except maybe scientology and satanism.

Haven't you learned by now that regardless of what the pope thinks we have a secular law? it doesn't arrive to your thick brain?

BTW, any comparison of your death cult with christianity is easily deleted by the simple fact that you are a muslim from a 3rd world country living in western (christian) lands and sucking off our goods.

If it is so powerful why you are not in the desert making the good life?

"Are you reffering to Sarah Leah Whitson or Chase? Whichever, both cannot have a good light of what is really going on in Dubai, since one is partial and the other more into cooking. "

oh, of course, who has got a grasp on dubai? Bin Laden?

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"Besides, if they were "The men putting up the world's finest buildings" wouldn't they at least have common sense and education to not work on underprivileged and "plain rotten" jobs?"

not true, not only you lack knowledge of everything , but also the construction fields. She is talking about construction workers, so while it's true that they are physically putting together fine buildings they are doing the lower part of the job.

Of course she is not talking about super-paid engineers or architect but you are very limited and you don't understand this simple evidence

"After all they must have some education to have the ability to put up "the world's finest buildings"shouldn't they?"

not at all. In my country nowadays the constructors are all immigrants, with no school grades. ...

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