Your response has good comedy value, but not much else.

Submitted by a Filipno liberal (Philippines), Dec 26, 2006 at 08:53

Now, watch as I destroy each of your silly little "arguments" one by one.

Of course, some of this might be a little offensive to people like you. But then, since you've already said a lot of insulting things to me in your posts, it might be a bit hypocritical for you to criticize me. Oh wait, I forgot, since you're so important and all, you can't be insulted, but you can insult everyone else, right?

"you are a nostalgic communist."

Actually, I'm a liberal. Are you a fascist?

"oooh pity, the muslims persecuted!!! LOL"

I already know you're an Islamophobic type who doesn't care about Muslims... But just because you are doesn't mean everyone else is, in case you were deluded enough to believe that.

"And what about arab/muslim imperialism? oh that doesn't count, because they are as brownish as yourself. Pathetic."

What's pathetic? Oh, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I am quite aware of Muslim imperialism, and here's my response: Apparently, you don't get that the "they do it too" argument doesn't absolve you from guilt. It doesn't make you right. And one more thing - Western imperialism took over a larger part of the world than Muslim imperialism ever did. The Muslims took Spain, the Middle East, parts of Africa, Asia Minor, Central Asia, India, and parts of Southeast Asia. Western imperialism took the entire world. So there's no comparison. Of course, knowing you, you'd probably say next that that was something to be proud of.

"keep on self-flagellating yourself, that won't help your beloved communism rise again"

Heh. It's called "recognizing your mistakes". But I suppose that would be an alien concept to you. Of course, I never oppressed any Muslims myself. But since I'm part of the group that did, it's my duty at least to be apologetic. And the connection between this and communism is something best known to yourself.

"not true, where on earth this is written? do you think the old egyptians cared about this? the greek civilization cared about this?"

"why today the WHITE/WESTERN MAN has to care about this?"

Well, since we now consider ourselves more civilized than these ancient civilizations (that's why they're ancient; we should have progressed since then), I don't think it's right to compare to them. And not just whites. Everyone. Oh, but I see that the Greeks are considered as the fouders of Western civilization.

"we are animals with intellect..."

That's true. You just confirmed my point.

"typical communist speculations. Myanmar has got oil and resources and NO foreign country taking those resources. They are one of the poorest countries on the planet. They are ruled by a military junta that would have all the interest in becoming richer. Yet they don't do and NOBODY is stealing their resources.

Moreover, tell another matter, places that have no natural resources like Italy (no oil, no gas) had to use their BRAINS to develop something else (art, culture, cusine, invention, Leonardo, Michelangelo etc).

BRAIN is another RESOURCE, that lacks big time in the 3rd world countries."

Check your facts please. Haven't you ever heard of Unocal in Myanmar? The scandal involving the company's collusion with the military junta? Unocal was building a pipeline to the ocean, and they needed labor. The government sent in the military to force people living in villages along the planned pipeline to work on it. When this was discovered, the company insisted the government did this on their own, and they were not requested to by the company. Yeah. Right. 'Cause what you said about the military junta? That they should have all the interest in becoming richer? That's true, but they want to enrich themselves, which is a separate thing entirely from enriching the country. The profits from Myanmar's oil go to the corrupt government and to the multinationals. Cooperation between multinationals and governments of countries to exploit the countries' population and resources is hardly new, it's happened before. Like Nazi Gemany, where American companies continued to do business with Nazi Germany, even as it continued to become more unpopular around the world and in the US itself, until Dec. 1941, when the US declared war on Germany and they were forced to stop.

When the Nazis placed an order for devices to keep count of the Jews in Europe (for their extermination project) IBM sold census tabulators, early calculators that were ancestors of modern computers, to the Nazis, in the full knowledge that they were to be used in concentration camps, and that Jews were to be exterminated with the help of these machines. IBM technicians even routinely visited the camps to service the machines, so it is impossible that they were unaware. (source: Joel Bakan's "The Corporation")

Oh, and what you said about brains, should I consider that an insult? 'Cause I don't think you're the best qualified to say such a thing, if you know what I mean.

"the biggest foreign community in my country is philipino, they are loved and appreciated, and they give great help to our country. They live a decent life and they are very grateful.

On the other hand go to see how your filipino brothers are treated in dubai or saudi arabia, where they are merely slaves, the girls are raped by imams and stolen of their passports.

Then get back to me saying that human nature is selfish."

I said earlier that you are a racist. I still think you are, but from this and your other posts here (you pretty prolific here, I see) you're only an anti-Muslim racist, not anti-all non-whites, like some people I've seen on the Net. That's one thing going for you.

As to the treatment of Filipinos in the Middle East, refer to what I said above. I'm quite aware of the treatment of Filipinos by some Muslims. And I'm just as angry about that as well. But it's completely irrelevant as far as what we're talking about is concerned. And racism and prejudicial treatment against Filipinos (or in the case of the Middle East, it appears to be because they're mostly Christian) exists all over the world, in Singapore too (the case of Flor Contemplacion) and of course in the West.

Human nature is selfish in general, that's why we have to try to overcome it. Of course, some people are better than others, whether naturally or because of moral education; I will not go so far as to call myself one of those, since I've behaved pretty badly myself at times.

"you are a deluded communist, go to north korea and see yourself your beloved mind controlling methods worked."

First a deluded Muslim, now a deluded communist. It sounds like you just throw around names to insult without understanding the true meaning. I bet you just call anyone who disagrees with you that, don't you?

Oh, and mind control? I don't have that ability, sorry. And speaking of North Korea, have you ever heard of how Kim Jong-il keeps the peasant population in hardship, while tourist attractions and hotels (off limits to North Koreans) and Korean government people and buildings and diplomats from other countries to North Korea, are kept fully equipped and wined and dined with the most expensive luxury cars and wines bought from multinational companies? And I never heard of one of those diplomats refuse all this good stuff because they knew the North Korean people were living in poverty.

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