Here's your proof

Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Dec 11, 2006 at 19:21

Zak wrote:

"Show us any of the so called "jihad" webistes that thousands are singing their guest books and spewing propaganda."

Here you go: http://www.moqawmh.com/. Be sure to check out their links page, which links to all sorts of pro-Islam, pro-terror, anti-Semitic nonsense.

And if you want an example of a ""terrorist supporting front organization … founded by Hamas supporters" that offers a "cleaner" website, try: http://www.cair-net.org/.

If you're interested in a site that tracks (and attacks) terror-supporting websites, here is a good one: http://haganah.org.il/haganah/index.html.

Here's a link from that site showing the various Hezbollah propaganda sites (complete with pics): http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/Hebrew/heb_n/html/hezbollah_int.htm.

Satisfied?

Next, you wrote:

"All of the people in here, and i say all of them are engaging in bashing islam right and left, except maybe for Dr Pipes who sees the problem with terrorists differently. Maybe because he is more eduacted on the subject than the rest of you.??"

Maybe he simply has a difference of opinion. Most of the people commenting on the problem with Islam here seem very intelligent, and their facts and analysis/criticism of Islam stands the test of reality. It is not "bashing" when someone points out violent, unacceptable, barbaric behavior. It's called telling it like it is. It's called speaking the truth.

"Your sweeping generalization is frightening?? any secular, or liberal muslim who reads the comments on this website would be taken back and chocked. "

Sure. They'd be shocked that anyone has the nerve to speak the truth about Islam.

"furthermore, you are just validating the terrorists and extremists view point about US and the west in general. You are not helping in solving the problem by attacking the religion itself instead of the terrorist and their twisted ideology."

You're wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin. First, let's for sake of argument pretend you're right in what you just said (you aren't, but let's play make-believe). Let's say that I and others like me are bashing Islam. This does not justify terrorists blowing up the World Trade Center full of innocent people. This does not justify killing 3,000 innocent men, women, and children, most likely none of which have ever "bashed Islam". In CIVILIZED society, people argue with words and facts, they do not use bomb vests and suicide bombers to settle arguments.

But you are wrong. Islam does not need anything to justify its violence. Islam justifies its violence through its own teachings, its own Koran, the actions of its founder, the preaching of its clerics, and its total lack of intolerance towards anything that challenges its supremacy. Islam is a paranoid, fanatical cult of death worship. Reality shows that fact to anyone wise enough, brave enough, and honest enough to see.

So your argument that people here telling the truth about Islam is justifying and validating the terrorists is a poor argument and quite perverted.

Next, your claim that we are not helping the problem is totally wrong as well. Islam demands silent obedience and refuses to question its own violent tendencies. If we remain silent, it will only get worse, because islanm preys on the weak. So we speak out loud and clear and tell the truth about Islam. And this can only make things better, because that is the only way to deal with reality...by speaking the truth and confronting the unpleasant realities of our world. Islam itself is violent. The violence stems from the actions of its creator, the words written in the Koran, and the teachings of its clerics. It is not a peaceful religion that's been hijacked by extremists. Only a total fool would believe that.

"Remember there are 1.3 Billion muslims and they are not going anywhere any time."

As long as they stay in their own countries and leave the rest of us alone, I don't care how many of them there are. Let them become civilized. Then we can allow them into our world. Otherwise, they have no place here with the rest of us.

"Globalization made world's human interaction increasly a daily reality that we could never escape from. So co-existance is the only way."

Try telling that to your fellow Muslims. They're the ones having problems peacefully co-existing with others. They're the ones at war with every other religion and belief system on earth. They're the ones who endorse genocide against the Jews. They're the ones threatening nuclear annihilation of entire civilizations.

"All American Muslim websites without exception condemn terrorism."

Another lie shot down.

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