Let's apply your your own standards and see the results , Hikmet !

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jul 29, 2010 at 07:13

Hikmet Pala writes :

> Out Slavic ancestry is not in doubt. [bang goes 15-20% of your argument] In a primitive nationalist state-as in Turkey-, the regime does not allow foreign names, so I, or my parents did not have a choice to give me a Slavic, Bulgarian name [knock down another 10-15%] .<

It's an interesting observation given the notorious fact that Moslem Bulgarians of indubitable Slavic ancestry in Bulgaria proper have been complaining about being forced to adopt Slavic names instead of their beloved Mehmet, Murad, Osman, Hikmet etc. So while in Turkey Pomacs claim to be Bulgarians, in Bulgaria they prefer to be Turks. Interesting chameleon-like habits.

> Lastly, I am an Atheist [-yet another 25-30%] and a Marxist [and another 25-30% goes down the drain] .<

Do you eat pork, don't observe Ramadan when all around you do, drink wine ? Well , circumcised atheists & Marxists with Moslem names who avoiding criticizing Islam in public and whitewash Turkey's Islam-motivated crimes don't look very convincing and atheistic , I am afraid . They may exist on paper or even on compuer screens but otherwise they seem to be an extinct species in Ataturkistan or any other dar al-Islam for that matter.

> That makes your argument less than 10% Mr Clever Clogs!] You are so simple that you cannot even read the obvious. Grow up a bit!<

Nothing about you is obvious , least of all your high claims which are time and again contradicted by your other sayings or the lack thereof. Consistency is a hard matter to achieve , I know, yet inconsistency makes all arguments invalid. The Aristotelian principle of contradiction is inexorable and no high official positions , good connections or self-righteousness stemming from working for Human Rights organizations can circumvent it. So again what about Mohammed's heinous crimes ? Never heard of them ?

> Peaceable Greeks was not the term I used. I quoted from someone else. I personally believe Greeks can be just as cruel and vicious as any other nation/people...<

I can hardly believe you're an athist, let alone a Marxist (Marx was an ardent Philellene by the way and a classical scholar too) , but I am more and more assured that you are a nihilist and opportunist .

I have one question in this context to you. How many Turks according to your sources suffered atrocities and expulsion on Cyprus to justify the expulsion carried out against 200 000 people(every third person) and innumerable Turkish practices of torture, mass rapes , naplam raids and all the other atrocities which are all enumerated in the reports of the European Commission for Human Rights from 1976 and afterwards ? As you say you work for practically the same agency the detailed documentation must be within easy reach of you , much easier than of me . So I wonder how you will deny the facts and numbers established by your own agency ?

Now the most interesting point comes here. If by your standards the Greeks are "just as cruel and vicious as any other nation/people" (you don't mean the Eskimos, the Papuans, the Ainu I presume but the Turks by your abstract term "other nation", do you ? ) , then again by your own standards and words the Greeks have the full right to exerminate or expel every single Turk , commit any imaginable atrocity to restore justice as defined by the standards applied by the same Turks and you. If 40 000 armed Turks terrorize and expel 200 000 Greeks by broad daylight, then 200 000 Greeks have a right to terrorize and expel 1 000 000 Turks. Consequently, if in the name of 18% population 37% of the territory is conquered by dint of Turkish outright military terror and bestialities , then 82% of the Greek population have even a more valid right to occupy 168,5% of the original territory of Cyprus , i.e. whole Cyprus plus a large area of Pamphylia or Cilicia to get the overdue 68,5% of territory to which the Greeks are entitled by applying the Turks' own legal standards and logic !

Yet , somehow the Greeks don't draw this obvious conclusion that follows from your own implicit premises which are just a repetiotion of official Turkish lies , although they would be within their right to do it referring to the Turkish legal logic. So I infer that your statement " I personally believe Greeks can be just as cruel and vicious as any other nation/people..." just reflects your deeply nihilistic and inverted value system and is one the many lies of Turkish propaganda which you spread here . It serves only one purose to disculpate and cover up the real cruel, vicious and barbarian nation involved in this millenium-long death and life struggle - the Turks as it is only a cruel, vicious and barbarian nation like the Turks that could justify what it have with the perverted and self-defeating logic I have described above !

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