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Turks have NEVER lived with anybody in peace.Reader comment on item: Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel in Gaza Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Sep 9, 2010 at 16:01 Caleb , I don't blame you for not knowing this or that thing in history. It is human to err. But when confronted with overwhelming evidence to persevere in ignorance is really to be animal like . It is one of your greatest stunts against common sense in my opinion. I understand though that being a Moslem necessarily entails irremediable irrationality. Homo Islamicus and Homo Sapiens are two mutually exclusive things. > For his dedication to nonalignment they loved the Archbishop in Athens, so you say, Ianus. Then they tried to kill him. Now, that, as we say in America, is really getting the shaft! < Hearing Turks say "we in America" I udnerstand better now why America has so consistently supported the Turkish denial of the Armenian genocide. "We in America sell weapons to Turkey worth billions of dollars. So how could we in America earn those billions of dollars from the notorious genocide perpetrators ? " Makarios stood behind the enosis movement from the every beginning. He organized the referendum on its behalf. Until 1967 he was a popular and worshipped figure in Greece. In Cyprus he had no competitor to power. What is most amazing is that he was fully supported by the communists and the leftists and was an appreciated guest in Moscow. This is what enraged the US doctrinaire anti-communists like Kissinger most . After the CIA organized the coup in Athens in April 1967 and the colonels began to witch-hunt leftists and communists in Greece and a number of attempts to assassinate Makarios had been made, Makarios could hardly wish his own demise by "enosis" with American puppets and CIA agents who were after killing him. It is interesting what the Greek dictator Ioannides told the US "emissary" on 15th July 1974 : "No matter what happened in Cyprus I (Ioannides) will be blamed. If I had pulled the troops out the former politicians would have blamed me for turning the island over to the Communists. Some day USG (US government ) will realize that on 15 July 1974 Cyprus was saved from falling into the hands of the Communists". > Archbishop Makarios' unforgivable offense? He was opposed to a "solution" for the Cyprus problem that would have subjected the Turkish minority there to the same fate as overtook the Cretan and Rhodian Turkish communities: expulsion or death.< His unforgivable sin was not to lick American boots as Ioannides did and to prefer Cyprus' interests to the American ones. Now you, descendant and apologist of genocide perpetrators , speak again of "expulsion and death" ? Not the same "expulsion and death" you described a few days before as allegedly taking place in Cyprus which turned out on closer consideration to be its very opposite - death and destruction at the hand of the allegedly dead and expeleld Turks ? Do you remember the British source ? The British authorities saw not a single Turk killed in the riots, yet Kucuk spoke of "thousands of murdered Turks" ! It's your Turkish method of lying ! > These were not illiterate peasants but a highly civilized, well assimilated community who spoke a Greek dialect--some still do--and for centuries lived peaceably with their neighbors.< Turks have NEVER lived with anybody in peace. They came as parasitic jihadists imposing the yoke of primitive Islamic obscurantism, ruthless exploitation, injustice and tyranny upon more civilized populations called 'rayas" = "cattle". Turks never assimilated as long as they remained Moslems. Quite the opposite! Islamizing was the first step to Turkification of the opressed and lawless " human cattle". But it is no assimilation worth the term at all. A Turk could rape, abduct , rob and kill any "rayas" without any punishment. A raya marrying a Turkish woman was immediately punished with death. There was no equity at courts in the Ottoman empire for the Moslems and the kafirs - to name just a few obvious things as far as your lie of Moslems "living peaceably with their neighbors" is concerned . What sort of "peace" is possible under shariah anyway ? "Jihad is peace" as we saw in Cyprus ! As to literacy it was not something Turks have ever been known for. 90% illiteracy before 1914 is a symptomatic number , isn't it ? In Cyprus illiteracy among the Turks was rampant and it found its expression in Turkish backwardness and poverty. 18% of Turks contributed less than 5% to the wealth of the island. Yet according to the 1960 constitution they received 30% political representation in Cyprus which meant , apart from being subsidized by the Greek majority, e.g. that not enough Turkish judges and administrative staff could be found to occupy the vacant posts. After 1974 this difficulty was circumvented by importing them en masse just like anything else from Ataturkistan. They received beautiful houses and gardens stolen from the Greeks. Submitting....
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