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Having committed the Armenian genocide what genocide the Turk won't commit , I wonder ?Reader comment on item: Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel in Gaza Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Sep 9, 2010 at 14:31 Caleb wrote : > Two EOKA-B men were convicted in connection with the assassination of US Ambassador Rodger Davies but only after three years and not of murder or manslaughter but only of possessing and using an automatic weapon. Each ultimately served LESS THAN A YEAR in prison.< It's interesting to note how fast and far you can jump from your principle of "tortfeasor" to side issues when the very principle is being turned against you. You have really no comments on how the Turkish gangs killed and terrorized the Greeks and vandalized Greek property as early as 1958 ? Your turns and twists remind of that of an eel caught in a net . In 1974 the Turkih soldiers acting on explicit orders of the Turkish government murdered before the eyes of the entire world some 5000 people. They raped, maimed , beat and tortured many more. Have you ever heard of a single Turk appearing before a court of justice for those heinous crimes against mankind ? ... But don't worry ! You are not supposed to answer this question at all . Having murdered 1,5 Armenians and 1 mln Greeks in Asia Minor what is 5000 more victims of the Turkish sadism and jihadism ? > Tell me more about these American citizens who were killed in the fighting on Cyprus. Did they actually reside in the USA ? Attend school there? < I bet you Turks could tell us more about them than we can. You have arrested, tortured and interrogated them before slaughtering them in cold blood , haven't you ? Andreas Kassapis - a boy of 17 - was visiting his family when the Turkish soldiers beat and dragged him in an unknown direction. The last thing his father did for him was to press his US passport in his hand. But it didn't help much. I feel the Turks stole the passport to sell it on the blackmarket to some Turkish maffia people. As to America , it is only 20 years after the massacres that the American Congress at last took some timid interest in finding out what had happened to five US citizens "missing" since 1974. In Octorber 1994 it passed a special law on that account. So the United States government sent an investigation team to Cyprus and Turkey under the former American Ambassador Dillon. The efforts of the Dillon team were crowned with discovering the remains of 17-year old American citizen Andreas Kassapis close to the Turkish-occupied village of Assia. After their identification with the DNA method, they were handed over to his family at Detroit. Regarding the four American citizens that are missing, the Dillon report said that according to the information gathered they should be dead by now. But to my mind Dillon had asked the wrong pepople and in the wrong place. He should have gone and asked Henry Kissinger who would tell him more through his knowledgeable Turkish friends who had ordered the killings in Cyprus. But, frankly, five Americans killed by the Turkish hordes are not much compared to several hundred British tourists and citizens that suffered from the Turkish hordes - were raped, beaten, robbed, lost their property, homes and instead of help received cold silence and indifference from the British government. Evidently, the British "guarnator of independence and integrity of Cyprus" (;), just like Uncle Sam, was interested in none of that "BS" and more or less openly sided with the Turkish aggressor and willingly took a few collateral casualties for a grander cause at stake in 1974 than the human rights and international agreements few in power ever care about. > Or were they, like Fulkan Dogan on the Turkish vessel **Mavi Marmara**, "paper" citizens with all significant ties to the country of their ancestry?< At any event they are more entitled to be called "Turks" than the Turks exported from Atatiurkistan to Cyprus are entitled to be called "Turkish Cypriots". > As I recall, Nasser tried to blame the US for the utter defeat and humiliation of his army and air force in 1967, dragging along a reluctant King Hussein of Jordan. [Hussein had the decency later to publicly retract the ludicrous accusation that American and British planes had carried out air strikes on Jordan and Egypt.] < I recall you , Caleb , made many absurd claims and spread intentional lies here. When reminded of what you were doing and corrected you didn't even deign to notice there was anything with you . Didn't you intend take Nasser as your model ? > Yes, the Turkish armed forces were equipped with American weapons including some rather elderly M-47 Patton tanks.< In 1964 President Johnson wrote to Inonu about a possible use of American or NATO weapons in Cyprus as follows : " the bilateral agreeement between the United States and Turkey in the field of military assistance. Under Article IV of the agreement with Turkey of July 1947, your(Turkey's) government is required to obtain United States consent for the use of military assistance for purposes other than those for which such assistance was furnished. Your government has on several occasions acknowledged to the United States that you fully understand this condition. I must tell you in all candor that the United States cannot agree to the use of any United States supplied military equipment for a Turkish intervention in Cyprus under present circumstances." A much more important question than that of US weapons being "rather elderly" would be therefore the question of why the American unleashed the Turkish hordes against Cyprus in 1974 even it did prevent the Turkish bestialities in 1964 ? > They arrived at Kyrenia only after several days, having first to be assembled at the port of Mersin then embarked on ship. < On their way from Mersin to Kerynia the US 6th Fleet was assuring their security of the Turkish invasion fleet just in case the blackmail by Kissinger wouldn't have been enough toa ssure the Greek passivity during the coming massacres in Cyprus by the Turkish hordes. > Being short of helicopters--and trained pilots--Turkey carried out the first parachute landings by any army in thirty years--and the last ever. These lightly armed forces would have been highly vulnerable to a counterattack--even by the T-34 tanks of the Cypriot National Guard--had that force not been busy pursuing supporters of President Makarios.< There may be some truth in what you're saying. A few more Russian tanks and more anti-aircraft artillery at the Greek Cypriots' hands and we would have had a(n ante-dated) Karabakh in the Mediterranean - with Turks beaten, humiliated and blaming each other for the defeat. It's only crushing numerical superiority, better equipment and the full US diplomatic cover that eventually saved the day for the Moslem barbarian. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. 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