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Ianus--Stuck in the Seventies, blurred on the fifties, plain wrong about the forties

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in response to reader comment: "The dirty Turk" is more than a metaphor .

Submitted by Caleb (United States), Sep 9, 2010 at 12:17

Under the Truman Doctrine announced in that President's 1947 Address, both Greece AND Turkey received not billions but hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, military and civilian in furtherance of **Containment**. This term for active resistance to the spread of Communism ironically was coined by then Secretary of State (foreign minister) Dean Acheson. Did the US taxpayer get his money's worth? In the short term, yes. The Royalist side prevailed in the Greek Civil War at a cost of 100,000 dead and thousands more choosing exile in the Communist lands. No one knows how many Greek children were kidnapped to East Europe, there to grow up both unwelcome and ignorant of who they really were. As for Turkey under the colorless Ismet Inonu, having sat out the Second World War it wanted only to be let alone in its core territory of Anatolia (plus a tiny piece on the fringe of Europe) so that it could advance the modernization process Ataturk had begun.

But when the North Atlantic Treaty was signed in 1949, Turkey under threat from both traditional enemies Bulgaria to the west and the Russian Soviet colossus to the east and north expressed an interest in joining the anti-Communist alliance. There were misgivings among NATO members about the admission of Turkey. Not because of any pan-Turkic ambitions she nurtured--that is totally imaginary--but because of fears of provoking the Soviet Union by extending NATO right to its borders in Georgia and Armenia. [The Soviets' concerns were well-founded. Aside from having sent its own stalwart soldiers to confront Communism in Northeast Asia, Turkey would host NATO facilities from the Dardanelles to the slopes of Ararat.]

In 1952 both Greece AND Turkey became members of the North Atlantic Alliance. There were NATO assets in Greece, too such as the air base at Hellenikon (closed in 1988). The view was that having both countries in NATO would discourage them from fighting each other, which it did in 1964. There was a time when Turkish opium, refined to morphine base then shipped to southern France for conversion to Heroin, supplied most addicts in the USA (the notorious "French Connection"). But in an example of an intelligent anti-drug policy combined with international cooperation, all that ended in the seventies.

Rather than embark on a fruitless eradication effort, such as is happening today in Afghanistan, the USA financed the Turkish government's program of buying up the opium crop at the same price criminal organizations like the Corsican Mafia were offering. It was an unqualified success. Turkish farmers in east Anatolia continue to grow opium but not an ounce of it reaches the streets of any American city.

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10Khaliphate [94 words]yuval Brandstetter MDJan 16, 2011 01:07181829
4Just a quick opinion [553 words]AlexandrosNov 1, 2012 08:27181829
6Have you heard of IPHESTOS PLAN [115 words]AtaAug 15, 2014 14:40181829
2You are a bit misinformed so let me try to make it clearer. [831 words]AlexandrosAug 18, 2014 05:38181829
4Iphestos Plan and AKritas Plan are not Misinformations [175 words]Ata AtunAug 20, 2014 09:35181829
1I am sorry , but i have not written any assumptions [164 words]AlexandrosAug 21, 2014 06:17181829
4You should read the articles on Cyprus written by the European journalists who visited Cyprus during 1963-1974 [269 words]Ata AtunAug 23, 2014 15:51181829
13Thank you Ianus! [41 words]PoseidonOct 1, 2010 06:27178847
18My pleasure [230 words]IanusOct 2, 2010 13:22178847
6Objection [77 words]TROct 3, 2010 03:09178847
21The Cyprus tragedy [175 words]dhimmi no moreOct 3, 2010 08:01178847
34Why so modest , Turk ? [192 words]IanusOct 5, 2010 01:25178847
8TR, are you telling the truth ? [20 words]PoseidonOct 5, 2010 17:39178847
7to Ianus - tragedy of Eastern Christianity [102 words]ASJan 28, 2011 01:54178847
2poor Ianus and his propaganda against Turks [43 words]Safa BalOct 15, 2011 17:42178847
8Nasty barbarians and their mantra [129 words]IanusOct 15, 2011 20:05178847
5thanks to ianus [30 words]roger spleenJul 1, 2012 06:00178847
5OPPOSING EVIL SHOULD NOT TURN INTO GREEK PROPAGANDA [329 words]JOHN KEFALIDISJan 12, 2014 16:37178847
5What Greek propaganda? [1180 words]AndreasJan 21, 2014 17:12178847
2what can I do? [53 words]DR STEVEN RUDDSep 18, 2010 09:14178375
7Powerful enemies of justice for Cyprus [527 words]IanusSep 19, 2010 18:46178375
9Barbarism must not be rewarded [128 words]Do not forget.Sep 20, 2010 20:51178375
10IT IS GREEKS WHO STARTED CYPRUS WAR [72 words]AN ORDINARY TURKISH GUYSep 22, 2010 12:55178375
23Turks [721 words]IanusSep 23, 2010 02:59178375
7Sole guilt is not Greeks' [113 words]george, researcherApr 12, 2011 02:54178375
1Always learn both sides of any story! [162 words]FulyaJun 29, 2012 09:23178375
2The Turkish side of the story?Who doesn't know it a priori ? [331 words]IanusJun 29, 2012 16:02178375
1Fulya, can't you count correctly ? [33 words]fact checkerJun 30, 2012 08:37178375
20How about ending Muslim occupation of the world's countries? [58 words]RajuSep 2, 2010 13:11177595
13another cyprus irony ? [49 words]tomAug 31, 2010 01:29177485
1Excellent point ! [9 words]IanusSep 1, 2010 12:59177485
4Hypocrisy and a Strained Comparison [222 words]CalebAug 25, 2010 13:43177267
12Turkish common nonsense [240 words]IanusAug 26, 2010 19:24177267
36 years still a long time [149 words]CalebAug 27, 2010 22:58177267
Cypriot Diaspora [67 words]CalebAug 28, 2010 18:45177267
11The unholy alliance between the US and Turkey [452 words]IanusAug 30, 2010 09:01177267
1Greeks long on memory, short on **sophia** (wisdom). [153 words]CalebAug 31, 2010 10:38177267
191955 pogroms in Constantinople - a rehearsal for the Turkish crimes against humanity in 1974 ! [551 words]IanusSep 1, 2010 12:55177267
Speaking of 1974... [173 words]CalebSep 5, 2010 10:43177267
12Mustapha alias Kemal alias Pasha alias Ghazi alias Ataturk - the man of five names and a hundred faces [449 words]IanusSep 6, 2010 02:28177267
3You can't make this stuff up! Nikos Georgeadis a/k/a Nikos Sampson: history's most successful crime reporter. [203 words]CalebSep 8, 2010 23:36177267
2I am sorry to inform you [72 words]AlexandrosNov 7, 2012 09:18177267
1north cyprus [68 words]denise karrAug 9, 2010 13:50176523
6Wrong democracy and wrong GDP ! [112 words]IanusAug 9, 2010 20:09176523
5Cyprus [87 words]Nikki CauserAug 11, 2010 01:59176523
12What is Compensation? [261 words]Philippos MarinakosAug 14, 2010 07:33176523
3Justice for Cyprus [52 words]IanusAug 15, 2010 15:19176523
3more info [24 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 17, 2010 06:12176523
4Philippe/Comment [82 words]Nikki CauserAug 17, 2010 09:51176523
6The more it changes the more it remains the same thing. [195 words]IanusAug 18, 2010 06:04176523
ship in sail [87 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 19, 2010 04:37176523
5Jews protesting against Islamic ritual murder of a Jewish girl in Constantinople -1927 [442 words]IanusAug 22, 2010 11:33176523
1Islamic Turkey as a better US ally against communism than secular Turkey [1317 words]IanusAug 24, 2010 09:37176523
4Beware of TURKS bearing gifts [225 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 26, 2010 05:11176523
3Famagusta, Cyprus [414 words]Nikki CauserAug 5, 2010 06:39176370
4Cyprus, The Land of My Father and Mother [284 words]Lucy ScoulasAug 8, 2010 11:36176370
1Memories [91 words]IanusAug 10, 2010 15:52176370
1Truth is the first casualty [84 words]CalebAug 25, 2010 22:31176370
2Cyprus [43 words]Nikki CauserAug 26, 2010 19:24176370
No Winners from the 1974 War [123 words]CalebAug 28, 2010 00:38176370
6Liars and their "truth" [673 words]IanusAug 28, 2010 06:35176370
Turkey has adhered to the Treaty of Lausanne... [143 words]CalebAug 29, 2010 20:03176370
9Turkish profiteers of the 1974 war [509 words]IanusAug 30, 2010 09:56176370
10... Caleb. [438 words]IanusAug 30, 2010 18:14176370
Alice in Wonderland numbers [194 words]CalebSep 1, 2010 10:15176370
11A serial killer and his "innocence" [1173 words]IanusSep 3, 2010 04:01176370
The mote in your neighbor's eye, the beam in your own... [104 words]CalebSep 3, 2010 18:31176370
1It's not injustice that hurts... [166 words]CalebSep 5, 2010 13:39176370
8Jihad is "peace" ! Just look at Northern Cyprus ! [629 words]IanusSep 6, 2010 04:15176370
13Turkey and her lies - the case of "the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey" [1312 words]IanusSep 6, 2010 10:12176370
Too much history [146 words]CalebSep 8, 2010 20:34176370
13Mankurts or how Turks try to control their victims by depriving them of their memory. [959 words]IanusSep 12, 2010 07:08176370
"London and Lausanne" has a nicer ring but either way it was a British sellout of a helpless minority. [124 words]CalebSep 12, 2010 22:51176370
WAY too much history, Ianus. [191 words]CalebSep 13, 2010 01:00176370
9Turkish claims to Cyprus and Sicily, Spain, Southern France, Iran, India ... [680 words]IanusSep 14, 2010 05:24176370
7Caleb [513 words]IanusSep 14, 2010 06:01176370
There's no right answer to the wrong question. [127 words]CalebSep 16, 2010 11:11176370
3Turkey's "history is as clean and clear as the sun." - imam Erdogan says [807 words]IanusSep 17, 2010 18:34176370
1Nasser and Makarious and the Cyprus tragedy [43 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 16:40176370
How about non muslim crimes? [80 words]An ordinary Turkish GuySep 20, 2010 11:26176370
2"Yes" or "No" answer please [115 words]IanusSep 21, 2010 13:29176370
2Thanks for the link [122 words]IanusSep 22, 2010 07:08176370
reply to Ianus [68 words]An ordinary Turkish GuySep 22, 2010 12:48176370
3Islam [1151 words]IanusSep 23, 2010 02:00176370
5A fake translator or just another Turkish propagandist? [252 words]dhimmi no moreSep 23, 2010 07:38176370
A Democrat Greek [92 words]StavrosJun 7, 2011 03:27176370
3Solutions and pseudo-solutions [1654 words]IanusJun 8, 2011 09:43176370
4Turkish hypocrisy [67 words]dhimmi no moreJun 10, 2011 06:21176370
2I have a question for Democrat Greek! [29 words]dhimmi no moreJun 10, 2011 06:24176370
1Self-flagellation [436 words]IanusJun 15, 2011 16:29176370
1Stavros aka a Greek Democrat is a Turkish propagandist [36 words]dhimmi no moreJun 16, 2011 05:33176370
And.... [32 words]AlexandrosNov 7, 2012 09:09176370
This is totally wrong. [76 words]wrongMay 4, 2013 22:10176370
4The Turkish booty in Cyprus [1028 words]IanusAug 2, 2010 14:35176242
2Cyprus test for anyone [158 words]oguztolgaAug 4, 2010 06:54176242
2More by oguztolga [194 words]IanusAug 5, 2010 08:55176242
6A refined test for Turkish IQ [635 words]IanusAug 5, 2010 09:57176242
3Where 18%=40% ? In Turkey ! [327 words]IanusAug 5, 2010 17:35176242
1quiz #2 [70 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 9, 2010 04:33176242
1Tukey test for anyone [391 words]dhimmi no moreAug 11, 2010 07:06176242
"Turkish Lies" or Greek Myths? [92 words]CalebAug 26, 2010 13:19176242
5Turks vs. thinking [105 words]IanusAug 26, 2010 18:48176242
You're a Funny Fellow, Ianus [119 words]CalebAug 27, 2010 23:34176242
4Forgetful and his double talk [601 words]IanusAug 30, 2010 08:30176242
Greeks still the world's greatest mythmakers [179 words]CalebSep 1, 2010 23:16176242
6US citizens killed by the Turks in Cyprus in 1974 [1591 words]IanusSep 3, 2010 10:04176242
Ianus so concerned about the lives of Americans. How about assassination of Amb. Davies? [275 words]CalebSep 3, 2010 19:18176242
3Terrorist Turkey [893 words]IanusSep 6, 2010 02:40176242
1TMT? What about the (Greek) terrorist EOKA-B? [240 words]CalebSep 7, 2010 01:20176242
5Having committed the Armenian genocide what genocide the Turk won't commit , I wonder ? [1135 words]IanusSep 9, 2010 14:31176242
1poor... Ianus [27 words]Safa BalOct 15, 2011 17:21176242
3Turkish crocodile tears [206 words]IanusOct 15, 2011 20:59176242
3Greece's Athens Court of Appeals: "The Turkish military intervention in Cyprus was LEGAL. [228 words]Alexy FlemmingNov 14, 2012 04:33176242
1Intelligent lying vs. unintelligent lying or "the luckiest man on the face of the earth" on Turkish payroll [1734 words]IanusNov 15, 2012 05:02176242
4Byzantion was not Greek [553 words]OguztolgaAug 1, 2010 10:51176218
4Sus Minervam docet. [350 words]IanusAug 2, 2010 19:25176218
4plagiarism [170 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 3, 2010 05:35176218
3Turkish-Fyromian Propaganda and Science Fiction [25 words]Young MCAug 3, 2010 13:08176218
1Plagiarism [91 words]IanusAug 3, 2010 18:46176218
1The transcending character of the Greek dimension [1514 words]Christos D. KatsetosAug 4, 2010 06:14176218
2there was no Byzantian Empire just a manupulated lie [476 words]oguztolgaAug 4, 2010 06:59176218
1facts hurt. [137 words]oguztolgaAug 4, 2010 07:00176218
5The Arab historians and the term bilad al-ruum [573 words]dhimmi no moreAug 4, 2010 07:10176218
1The bigger the lie ... [192 words]IanusAug 4, 2010 20:21176218
1Facts hurt (2) [285 words]oguztolgaAug 5, 2010 03:40176218
There was no Byzantion just a manupulated dates in the History [189 words]oguztolgaAug 5, 2010 03:46176218
1too obvious [256 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 5, 2010 05:09176218
4More Turkish delusions: The great ghazi Mehmet was half Armenian what a scandal [248 words]dhimmi no moreAug 5, 2010 06:39176218
3Our dear oguztogla disagrees with his Allah! astaghfirullah [147 words]dhimmi no moreAug 5, 2010 06:55176218
9'Turk' means "uncouth barbarian" in Osmanlica , oguztolga . [758 words]IanusAug 5, 2010 16:28176218
4More Turkish ignorance [1020 words]dhimmi no moreAug 5, 2010 19:46176218
2Turkish obvious propaganda [448 words]dhimmi no moreAug 6, 2010 07:01176218
2The mother of all gems and Allah's Quranic al-ruum must be Romania oh I did not make this one up! Read and laugh [421 words]dhimmi no moreAug 6, 2010 07:23176218
swf ? [54 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 7, 2010 05:21176218
2Mehmet II - a bastard son of Murad II [251 words]IanusAug 7, 2010 05:50176218
swf (sic) and tablighees [103 words]dhimmi no moreAug 7, 2010 18:55176218
"Auschwitz begins whenever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they're only animals." [349 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 7, 2010 20:45176218
omitted link [37 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 7, 2010 20:59176218
3Turkey - a perfect Orwellian state and its history books [1452 words]IanusAug 8, 2010 17:11176218
2History - "Turkey Talk" [352 words]IanusAug 8, 2010 19:41176218
2History Turkish style [342 words]dhimmi no moreAug 9, 2010 06:32176218
1History and the turks and Patriarch Bartholomew on CBS's 60 minutes [489 words]dhimmi no moreAug 10, 2010 07:06176218
2The martyrdom and agony of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in Turkey [2842 words]IanusAug 12, 2010 19:31176218
6More Turkish Distortion [227 words]ChuckAug 24, 2010 15:38176218
2Indigenous (over 4 millennia standing) Hellenic and other civilisations' rights to freely exist in 6 centuries old Turkey [70 words]Eleftheriades,GeorgeSavva'OAM'GCSCG'CETr'JPSep 17, 2010 02:41176218
Hmmph [52 words]Kepha HorFeb 27, 2011 09:08176218
byzantine empire [102 words]jackSep 1, 2011 22:51176218
4FYRoM Right To Self-Determination [276 words]Nick the GreekFeb 25, 2012 18:05176218
MACEDONIA [263 words]STAMASTERApr 14, 2012 15:56176218
MACEDONIA [87 words]STAMASTERApr 14, 2012 15:58176218
"Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, page 254 [361 words]Macedonian1Aug 4, 2012 08:57176218
1History falsification by Pseudomacedonians aka FYROMians [22 words]Young MCAug 4, 2012 19:09176218
And which nation is not a composite? [106 words]Kepha HorNov 2, 2012 21:51176218
Another thought [36 words]Kepha HorNov 2, 2012 21:55176218
Losers Club members don't like the alltime winners,TURKS [417 words]oguztolgaNov 4, 2012 06:57176218
1Oguztolga's "Losers Club members don't like the alltime winners,TURKS" [27 words]Young MCNov 5, 2012 10:31176218
the way you word things [23 words]Raisin BranFeb 4, 2013 16:53176218
2What's the name of the thing which no liar can stand? [113 words]IanusFeb 5, 2013 13:07176218
Greeks are the greatest [88 words]Kurdish state in TurkeyJul 4, 2013 16:29176218
1Plagiarism [25 words]Hellenic HeroApr 28, 2014 20:10176218
AD IN THE NEW YORK TIMES CALLS FOR TURKEY TO FLOTILLA ITS TROOPS OUT OF CYPRUS AND END THE BRUTAL INVASION [26 words]AlexJul 31, 2010 10:04176195
VISIT OF MR.CAMERON TO TURKEY, ANKARA [39 words]vehbi camJul 28, 2010 02:40176113
And where's the link? [6 words]MotkeJul 29, 2010 05:49176113
British Hypocrisy [294 words]James BurkeJul 27, 2010 12:23176098
1British military bases in Greek Cyprus [146 words]IanusJul 28, 2010 21:09176098
... article [209 words]gulseJul 27, 2010 03:50176089
Recommendation [16 words]Taner MersinJul 27, 2010 01:48176083
1Counter-recommendation [110 words]IanusJul 29, 2010 18:18176083
2Ianus, So finally, at 1:15 AM in Poland you had your Godwin's Law moment and compared Ataturk (Mustafa Kemal) to Hitler [433 words]LazmanJul 26, 2010 13:16176056
2Lazman, it's not me - it's Hitler who compared himself to Ataturk ! [49 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 18:42176056
If Hitler says so and Ianus concurs who am I to disagree [858 words]LazmanJul 29, 2010 00:16176056
ataturk and mohammed [44 words]arthur smithJul 29, 2010 03:59176056
Ianus, one quick possible correction [250 words]LazmanJul 29, 2010 12:48176056
2Tthe sources vs. Turkish moral claims [1044 words]IanusJul 30, 2010 03:54176056
1Ataturk and Mohammed - friends for ever ? [531 words]IanusJul 30, 2010 15:50176056
1Remembering and forgetting things [1147 words]IanusJul 31, 2010 08:46176056
Struggling with endless contradiction [903 words]LazmanAug 1, 2010 22:08176056
3Do not blame us Blame the Greeks or blame the Armenians! This is the Turkish mantra [412 words]dhimmi no moreAug 3, 2010 07:05176056
1"The more words you use the wronger you are." A new Turkish criterion of truth [2508 words]IanusAug 3, 2010 16:26176056
2508 words [65 words]LazmanAug 4, 2010 00:16176056
1Lazman will never answer your direct question, dhimmi no more ! [155 words]IanusAug 4, 2010 15:52176056
1Do your best to forget SG/SD/WASHDC-12/526-D48/JULE74 for the fourth time , Lazman ! [17 words]IanusAug 4, 2010 20:36176056
Ianus, I am still waiting for you to reveal your heritage [67 words]LazmanAug 10, 2010 11:17176056
1E.g. [117 words]IanusAug 10, 2010 17:19176056
3And you are dear Lazman what is really your "heritage"? Oh let me guess Greek or is it Armenian or is it Syrian? [95 words]dhimmi no moreAug 10, 2010 17:20176056
3Talking about Courage and the Coward Denial of Genocide ... [123 words]Young MCAug 10, 2010 18:53176056
2Lazman is a Turkified Laz. [192 words]IanusAug 17, 2010 17:29176056
3Turks and their "heritage" [225 words]dhimmi no moreAug 18, 2010 06:36176056
3The most hateful thing about Islam [71 words]IanusAug 18, 2010 17:09176056
3veritas [49 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 21, 2010 19:31176056
1Turkish Hypocrisy [79 words]GeorgyJul 25, 2010 23:43176033
1It is in the name of Enosis that Cyprus has been destroyed [197 words]LazmanJul 25, 2010 16:05176021
2Cyprus problem goes back to 1963 and not 1974 [889 words]LazmanJul 25, 2010 13:26176016
2More Turkish nonsense [138 words]dhimmi no moreJul 26, 2010 19:06176016
1The Cyprus problem goes back to 1954, not 1963! [142 words]HelleneJul 30, 2010 23:08176016
1Exactly [221 words]IanusJul 31, 2010 18:05176016
All of Israel is an open air prison [248 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDJul 25, 2010 11:12176012
Turkey is there to "enforce" a muslim control of this area, Israel only wants peace, not control. [119 words]Phil GreendJul 24, 2010 18:03175981
1with all the material Turkey's Islamist government provides on almost daily basis ... [964 words]LazmanJul 23, 2010 22:08175953
1The Cyprus problem started only when Turkey was invited to help solve it ! [198 words]IanusAug 2, 2010 15:19175953
5Wait a minute! [198 words]Solomon TaraganoSep 6, 2010 11:16175953
5"Mein Kampf" - a recent bestseller in Turkey [67 words]IanusSep 14, 2010 06:57175953
cypress [214 words]traveler-2054359Jul 23, 2010 11:03175933
1A cypress on Cyprus and oil in Gaza [834 words]IanusJul 24, 2010 04:35175933
how far ? [63 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJul 24, 2010 05:56175933
1a question of inheritance ? [66 words]PanJul 25, 2010 00:13175933
3Another victim of Turkish imperialism [151 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2010 19:20175933
Cyprus Needs Enforcement of UN security council resolutions ,and liberation from Turkey's enslavement [467 words]e. nondasJul 22, 2010 22:53175913
1Makarios - "the Fidel Castro of the Mediterranean" [675 words]IanusJul 31, 2010 17:40175913
7ENOSIS; EOKA-B; AKRITAS PLAN; MAKARIOS [115 words]AnonJul 22, 2010 17:35175906
1Unimplemented plans vs. conspicuous facts or Enosis à la turque [848 words]IanusJul 23, 2010 16:58175906
2Read a Cypriot source " Barbarism Against the Turkish Cypriots…The other side of the coin ", by Antonis Angastiniotis [317 words]AnonJul 24, 2010 05:08175906
Genghis Khan & Co [130 words]UgriJul 24, 2010 11:07175906
2Turkish bombs on Cyrpus in 1964 [2014 words]IanusJul 25, 2010 06:58175906
3Another victim of Turkish imperialism [298 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2010 08:07175906
1Nasser, Makarious and Cyrpus [411 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2010 08:36175906
1The Mongolian - a nightmare of the Turk 1 [1392 words]IanusJul 25, 2010 17:34175906
2A taste of your own medicine Turkish style [206 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2010 19:06175906
Ianus ...? [413 words]LazmanJul 26, 2010 13:32175906
1What do you choose , Lazman : "An original source or your sweet Turkish lies" ? [299 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 18:16175906
2Turkish delusions and blaming the victims [922 words]dhimmi no moreJul 26, 2010 18:37175906
18Turkish atrocities in Cyprus in 1974 - mass rapes - a 1976 report of the European Commission of Human Rights [656 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 22:29175906
Thanks Ianus [79 words]UgriJul 27, 2010 02:09175906
There was never etrhnic cleansing of Turkish Cypriots [161 words]AlexJul 27, 2010 03:07175906
Ianus [504 words]AnonJul 27, 2010 05:59175906
1Include the next sentence too , Lazman ! [91 words]IanusJul 27, 2010 07:53175906
1Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha - Allah's victorius warrior , destroyer of infidels [590 words]IanusJul 28, 2010 18:49175906
Question for Ianus [37 words]Aymenn JawadJul 31, 2010 06:58175906
1Cyprus and Ianus [283 words]dhimmi no moreJul 31, 2010 18:27175906
Thanks ! [120 words]IanusAug 1, 2010 05:59175906
1Cyprus and Ianus and an addendum [244 words]dhimmi no moreAug 1, 2010 07:10175906
9President Johnson's letter to Ismet Inonu from 1964 and its relevenace to understand the Turkish invasion of 1974 [1379 words]IanusAug 6, 2010 18:13175906
1Cyprus and Nasser [385 words]dhimmi no moreAug 7, 2010 06:52175906
2The Turks, the Egyptians, the Greeks and NATO [1923 words]IanusAug 9, 2010 17:37175906
1Nasser and Makarious [145 words]dhimmi no moreAug 10, 2010 07:23175906
7Cui bono ? Who really needed the overthrowing of Makarios ? [988 words]IanusAug 10, 2010 19:23175906
2Nasser and Cyprus [679 words]dhimmi no moreAug 12, 2010 07:17175906
sigh [219 words]Y.Aug 18, 2010 04:51175906
1Nasser and Cyprus and the greeks and Russia [458 words]dhimmi no moreAug 18, 2010 17:43175906
1An addendum Nasser Makarious and Cyprus [288 words]dhimmi no moreAug 19, 2010 06:49175906
4Kalam fadi and hasbara [73 words]dhimmi no moreAug 19, 2010 06:57175906
A late response [845 words]Y.Aug 24, 2010 14:31175906
fadi? [70 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 25, 2010 06:13175906
1Nasser and cyprus [1721 words]dhimmi no moreAug 25, 2010 07:57175906
4The Turks , the Greeks, the Russians, the Americans [994 words]IanusAug 25, 2010 08:06175906
1Nasser and the cyprus tragedy still unanswered [541 words]dhimmi no moreAug 25, 2010 12:24175906
2Great post DNM, but I beg to differ on your take on Hasbara [272 words]saraAug 25, 2010 18:21175906
3Anwar El Sadat and Makarios [322 words]IanusAug 26, 2010 12:04175906
1The word fadi [108 words]dhimmi no moreAug 27, 2010 06:10175906
10Nasser's life revisited and the Cyprus tragedy [665 words]dhimmi no moreAug 27, 2010 06:37175906
The word hasbara revisited [391 words]dhimmi no moreAug 27, 2010 06:54175906
Greeks want to have their **glykismata** and eat it, too! [53 words]CalebAug 31, 2010 11:18175906
2Very influential friends [159 words]IanusSep 1, 2010 11:31175906
1Down the rabbit hole with Ianus [112 words]CalebSep 2, 2010 21:01175906
4"50 billion dollars worth of foreign debt is nothing, it is two lorry loads of heroin..." or Turkish capitalism at work [1948 words]IanusSep 4, 2010 06:50175906
Greek people **si!**, Greek state **no!** [447 words]CalebSep 6, 2010 13:58175906
"Greek Love" for Makarios? [96 words]CalebSep 6, 2010 15:33175906
7"The dirty Turk" is more than a metaphor . [1159 words]IanusSep 7, 2010 02:41175906
Couldn't have said it better myself... [231 words]CalebSep 8, 2010 19:25175906
Ianus--Stuck in the Seventies, blurred on the fifties, plain wrong about the forties [443 words]CalebSep 9, 2010 12:17175906
2Turks have NEVER lived with anybody in peace. [814 words]IanusSep 9, 2010 16:01175906
In memory of the victims of the 9/11 atrocity may they rest in peace and this time a victim of Turkish imperialism [273 words]dhimmi no moreSep 11, 2010 07:38175906
1The many contradictions of Ianus or: Having one's Greek Pastry and eating it, too. [276 words]CalebSep 11, 2010 11:58175906
2Lies make things worse, not better, Caleb. [1501 words]IanusSep 12, 2010 05:46175906
2Toilet paper for Turkey [904 words]IanusSep 12, 2010 13:20175906
It's a queer sort of blackmail... [33 words]CalebSep 13, 2010 18:30175906
More muddled history and The One Unforgivable Crime [452 words]CalebSep 13, 2010 23:48175906
5Five 9/11 jihadists trained in Turkey [1926 words]IanusSep 15, 2010 02:43175906
3The EU hyperbureaucracy vs. Europe [273 words]IanusSep 15, 2010 15:37175906
A question easily answered [65 words]CalebSep 15, 2010 21:54175906
Remember "Voodoo Economics"? Here's some **ouzo** economics, courtesy of Ianus! [233 words]CalebSep 16, 2010 12:08175906
1A wrong question answered wrongly [676 words]IanusSep 17, 2010 17:27175906
1Our dear caleb and argument from fresh paint [177 words]dhimmi no moreSep 18, 2010 09:06175906
1Caleb's knowledge of things which have never happened [352 words]IanusSep 19, 2010 02:51175906
Russification v "Pan-Turkism" [161 words]CalebSep 19, 2010 14:07175906
What a Long Memory! [50 words]CalebSep 19, 2010 14:14175906
1What long memory? [125 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 18:11175906
Ancestral Balance Sheets [62 words]CalebSep 20, 2010 19:02175906
Caleb, teach us all some history [45 words]studentSep 21, 2010 19:38175906
1Our dear caleb and argument from fresh paint part deux [177 words]dhimmi no moreSep 22, 2010 07:29175906
6Comrade Ataturk and his bolshevik brothers [678 words]IanusSep 22, 2010 08:03175906
1Turkey need not apologize [301 words]CalebSep 24, 2010 14:05175906
6Turks don't apologize. They kill and terrorise to prove they are not guilty of murder or terror 1 [1280 words]IanusSep 26, 2010 03:09175906
3Turks don't apologize. They kill and terrorise to prove they are not guilty of murder or terror 2 [1222 words]IanusSep 27, 2010 02:27175906
Every country has its price. Armenia's is just a little lower. [51 words]CalebSep 28, 2010 23:07175906
Conspiracy and Pedantry--Thank you, Ianus! [339 words]CalebOct 1, 2010 00:22175906
6The deadly price the West pays for having the Turks in its midst [580 words]IanusOct 1, 2010 15:09175906
Armenian fraudster? Ianus, "The words are yours." (Jesus to Pilate at Matthew 27:11-14 KJ) [84 words]CalebOct 2, 2010 10:21175906
What is EOKA AND MEGALO IDEA= [10 words]TROct 4, 2010 01:21175906
4One preliminary question from Ianus [276 words]IanusOct 5, 2010 01:12175906
Mr. Michaletos of Athens' "interesting analysis" actually proves my earlier point. [88 words]CalebOct 5, 2010 08:14175906
2About the meaning of the names "Mongol" and "Tatar" in the medieval Eurasia: [224 words]MukhuriSep 20, 2012 12:05175906
2Pan-Turkic pseudo-history [685 words]IanusSep 21, 2012 08:48175906
1From other victims of the Mongol Yuan(元朝蒙古人所害的客家人) [211 words]Kepha HorNov 2, 2012 22:20175906
Megale Idea [190 words]Kepha HorNov 2, 2012 22:32175906
1Selling one's soul to the Devil for a cup of coffee and a piece of balaklava [49 words]IanusNov 4, 2012 03:39175906
1Suggestion [227 words]IanusNov 4, 2012 04:11175906
Sh...Ooops, History happens [390 words]Kepha HorNov 5, 2012 05:59175906
2Selling one's soul to the Devil for a cup of coffee and a piece of balaklava (full version this time?) [231 words]IanusNov 5, 2012 16:19175906
You need help [53 words]LeventMar 28, 2013 12:45175906
Turkish lies as "history" [121 words]IanusMar 28, 2013 23:53175906
Just apologize and move on. Someone did something [523 words]Carrie CramerJun 15, 2013 02:49175906
... untruths about a great empire [154 words]ProfesUsOct 10, 2015 02:32175906
Would not war on Turkey be a justifiable measure [12 words]Inez Deborah Emilia AltarNov 12, 2015 17:26175906
just the facts [489 words]erdal erolJun 24, 2017 00:48175906
Any information on period from 1960 to 1974? [52 words]KaanJul 22, 2010 07:29175894
1Sense of proportions [164 words]IanusJul 22, 2010 17:54175894
Greek Cyprus [118 words]giborJul 23, 2010 11:18175894
Cyprus - Israel [119 words]KaanJul 26, 2010 08:44175894
History [115 words]KaanJul 26, 2010 08:52175894
2Blame Islam , not ethnicity ! [501 words]IanusJul 27, 2010 05:47175894
1Expulsion of reality - Turkish-style [1414 words]IanusJul 27, 2010 16:21175894
2Turkish delusions and Turkish imperialism and Cyprus [387 words]dhimmi no moreJul 28, 2010 06:51175894
interesting... [112 words]KaanJul 29, 2010 07:38175894
2Turkey and Islam are not like anything else, alas! [929 words]IanusJul 31, 2010 05:03175894
1Our dear Kaan: Stop being a victim of the truks and their imperialism and is this asking for much? [671 words]dhimmi no moreJul 31, 2010 08:15175894
dhimmi no more [223 words]KaanAug 7, 2010 07:02175894
re dhimmi no more [341 words]KaanAug 7, 2010 07:15175894
re Ianus [452 words]KaanAug 7, 2010 07:33175894
1More Turkish delusions [552 words]dhimmi no moreAug 7, 2010 19:14175894
here's an answer [250 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 7, 2010 22:06175894
2Ianus and his timid hints at recurrent genocides perpetrated by the Turks [2333 words]IanusAug 8, 2010 07:02175894
The Armenian Genocide and those who deny it [936 words]dhimmi no moreAug 8, 2010 07:18175894
re Down Under [169 words]KaanAug 10, 2010 03:25175894
"Basic rule" and "law" [206 words]IanusAug 10, 2010 19:44175894
re re Ianus [99 words]KaanAug 11, 2010 10:23175894
1Turkish mujahedins in Cyprus [777 words]IanusAug 11, 2010 19:50175894
1apt [139 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 12, 2010 03:59175894
re re re Ianus [233 words]KaanAug 14, 2010 05:41175894
2If you expose evil, you reveal "a totalitarian mind" ! - a new "humanistic" approach . [600 words]IanusAug 15, 2010 04:51175894
1The Turks and their victims [566 words]dhimmi no moreAug 15, 2010 07:44175894
dhimmi no more - this time, you really messed it up [171 words]KaanAug 17, 2010 08:46175894
re re re re Ianus [354 words]KaanAug 17, 2010 09:28175894
3Turkish delusions revisited and the Armenian Genocide [363 words]dhimmi no moreAug 18, 2010 06:50175894
1"In the right extent ..." [1434 words]IanusAug 18, 2010 14:42175894
Ianus - again [208 words]KaanAug 20, 2010 11:14175894
2some of us live in the 21st Century [595 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanAug 21, 2010 20:24175894
1Facts ,dates, details as "conspirative information" and Kaan's methods to predict the future. [1478 words]IanusAug 22, 2010 04:08175894
5It is Constantinople and not Istanbul [568 words]dhimmi no moreAug 29, 2010 07:23175894
5Istanbul - a city created by the Turkish Postal Service Law on 28.03.1930 ! [370 words]IanusSep 2, 2010 14:02175894
3It is Constantinople and not Istanbul part deux [672 words]dhimmi no moreSep 3, 2010 07:16175894
inferiority complex [76 words]istanbulOct 28, 2013 14:28175894
1Add to this... [106 words]Peter HerzJul 21, 2010 20:41175879
1Turkish miracle of remembering things which have never happened [188 words]IanusJul 22, 2010 18:33175879
making it worse [35 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJul 24, 2010 05:48175879
A great example is Crete [128 words]PanJul 24, 2010 23:43175879
1How Turkish despotism gives birth to Turkish ignorance [363 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 05:35175879
Israel didnt even say so [119 words]Jay1Jul 21, 2010 20:04175878
Turkey in Cyprus verses Israel in Gaza. There is no democracy in Islamic nations. [62 words]Anne-USAJul 21, 2010 19:07175875
1A 180 turn ? [134 words]IanusJul 23, 2010 06:41175875
A 180 degree turn from the past in allowing the usage of air base. response to Ianus. [143 words]Anne-USAJul 24, 2010 07:59175875
Didn't know that Turks are the "chosen people". [45 words]M.D.Jul 21, 2010 13:52175865
Most of Turkey is occupied Greece [39 words]MarkJul 24, 2010 18:42175865
Most of Islamic-anything is occupied [31 words]TedJul 25, 2010 00:11175865
1All of Islamic-anything is occupied [45 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 17:07175865
vital differences [121 words]VijayJul 21, 2010 11:56175862
1Shame on Mr Pipe [944 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
ALDJul 21, 2010 11:03175861
Turks systematically massacred POWs in Cyprus [193 words]AlexJul 27, 2010 02:54175861
1false use of Guanators powers [347 words]loukas kozakouAug 30, 2010 06:47175861
An excellent comparison [17 words]Abu NudnikJul 21, 2010 05:31175846
T.B. Akmazoglu [82 words]YehudaJul 21, 2010 05:22175845
Yes we cannot compare the Greeks in Cyprus with Palestinians in Gaza [229 words]TedJul 21, 2010 03:23175838
2Cold blooded murder of snail gatherer by Turkish Army [911 words]KyriacosJul 20, 2010 23:36175832
Turkey in Cyprus and Israel not only in Gaza. The two opposite differences between Greeks and Muslims Islam. [255 words]Admiral Peter KikareasJul 20, 2010 22:41175831
11Turkish barbarity at work in Northern Cyprus [655 words]IanusJul 20, 2010 18:20175822
Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel in Gaza [117 words]moJul 21, 2010 16:55175822
1Seeing the barbarians' work [74 words]IanusJul 23, 2010 06:22175822
How many more ...? [73 words]Dr.Mustafa AtacSep 6, 2011 08:59175822
4One more exactly 56 years ago ! Do you remember 6-7.09.1955 ? [415 words]IanusSep 7, 2011 18:50175822
Consistency [66 words]Mark GJul 20, 2010 17:50175821
1Another distinction [105 words]IanusJul 21, 2010 01:49175821
And the kurds? [18 words]NisarJul 20, 2010 17:04175819
Erdogan's hypocrisy beyond the pale [124 words]Michael KurtzigJul 20, 2010 15:54175816
3Kemalism is Turkish fascism . [182 words]IanusJul 21, 2010 02:24175816
1Ministry of Disinformation [346 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Hikmet PalaJul 20, 2010 15:47175815
1Turkey's Ministry of Truth announces " Ne mutlu türküm diyene!". [321 words]IanusJul 24, 2010 18:38175815
I could've continued but ... [1096 words]Hikmet PalaJul 25, 2010 09:48175815
inaccuracies of my message [57 words]Hikmet PalaJul 25, 2010 20:33175815
1"Relief in converting temples into mosques " ... [3498 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 12:46175815
1Anti-bigots and their "relief in converting temples into mosques" [111 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 13:01175815
response [237 words]Hikmet PalaJul 26, 2010 18:21175815
1Poor old fella!! [634 words]Hikmet PalaJul 26, 2010 22:05175815
3200 000 human tragedies as "unconfirmed, out of the blue suggestions" ... [1090 words]IanusJul 28, 2010 20:47175815
3Let's apply your your own standards and see the results , Hikmet ! [839 words]IanusJul 29, 2010 07:13175815
1"lunatic ravings" and a response that I don't deserve [1271 words]IanusJul 29, 2010 17:59175815
1934 is known for another reason [48 words]BuffAug 8, 2010 09:14175815
3Turks buy America just as Saudis do. [176 words]IanusAug 9, 2010 19:23175815
Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel in Gaza [35 words]Dannel R. BallesterosJul 20, 2010 15:45175814
turkey to cyprus vs ısrael in gaza [162 words]vehbi camJul 21, 2010 10:53175814
2Turkish amnesia [701 words]IanusJul 22, 2010 17:40175814
MY REPLY TO IANUS FROM POLAND COMMENT ON TURKEY-CYPRUS, ISRAL IN GAZZA ARTICLE [107 words]vehbi canJul 23, 2010 07:16175814
Replies vs. pseudo-replies [380 words]IanusJul 24, 2010 03:19175814
YOUR COMMENT TO MY COMMENT. CYPRUS/TURKEY AND ISRAEL/GAZZA [203 words]VEHBI CANJul 25, 2010 11:09175814
Content or rather its lack [1092 words]IanusJul 26, 2010 16:47175814
Time for a "real" flotilla for regional peace [496 words]Bill J.Jul 20, 2010 14:53175813
2Turks ... on the internet [28 words]PeterAug 5, 2010 03:57175813
Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel NOT in Gaza [292 words]RonnieJul 20, 2010 13:43175810
2"Land use" in Moslem Northern Cyprus [358 words]IanusJul 21, 2010 03:54175810
Apples and Oranges [213 words]Stephen ConnorJul 20, 2010 13:07175808
3What Hitler is for the Polish Jews, Kemal is for the Greeks . [396 words]IanusJul 24, 2010 19:15175808
Another Religious Conflict---Who'd Thunk It? [30 words]Barry BlackJul 20, 2010 12:02175805
Turkey WAS a democracy. It no longer is, due to a terrorist Islamic leadership. How about U.S. leadership? [593 words]Carmen Waggoner, Ph.D.Jul 20, 2010 11:13175802
Excellent assessment,....except [267 words]DEBORAH THE JUDGEJul 21, 2010 12:40175802
Thus far, Turkish irredentism has worked. [189 words]Tom MorrowJul 20, 2010 09:49175800
TURKEY AND CYPRUS [184 words]Ilene RichmanJul 20, 2010 09:35175799
Turkey and Cyprus [199 words]MikeJul 21, 2010 04:55175798
5"Turkish innocence" ? Too good to be true ! [491 words]IanusJul 21, 2010 08:00175798
Waving the Bloody Shirt [187 words]Peter HerzJul 21, 2010 20:49175798
Curious charm [85 words]Rebecca MouldsJul 20, 2010 07:30175791
the real issue [71 words]ASJul 21, 2010 00:07175791
Palestinian head praises Munich massacre chief. [102 words]HershlJul 20, 2010 07:00175790
Dr. Pipes??? [358 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Nihat C.Jul 22, 2010 08:50175790

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