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Three Issues; Jordan, Jordan, & Jordan

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Jan 8, 2023 at 13:39

1. Regarding Gaza, Israel does have the military capacity to close it's "border" with Gaza, thereby forcing Egypt to save its Muslim Arab "brethren." It's that simple. Egyptians hatred of Israelis is well documented. The question is one of strategy. Let Egypt and the rest of the Muslim world give Gaza what is its due, except for military support, like drones and rockets.

2. Jordan is like a ticking bomb, with the Palestinians demographically outnumbering the earlier indigenous, "Palestinians." You, Dr. Daniel Pipes, often considered "Jordan is Palestine" as a dead idea and strategy. However, difficult to anticipate history may have its own idea. As you know, it was Churchill who carved out Transjordan out of the rest of the Palestine Mandate. So it is merely a matter of Jews and Israelis de-legitimizing the West Palestinian and Jordan claims. Look at how successful the Palestinians have been in the international arena in calling Israel the Zionist entity engaged in Colonialism, Occupation, Apartheid, and Settlements. So it will take a few years for Jews and Israelis to call Jordan the true Land of the Palestinian People. That should be Israel's policy. Recall how Bismark turned (little) Prussia into Germany!

The issue of Democracy in Israel is confused not only by Israel's enemies, but by its own Jewish Israelis. Israel is the State of the Jewish People - as it has always been since at least the inception of Zionism. It is not a Democracy for all the People who live in Israel who deny the right of the Jews to their own self-determination. Any Treason by non-Jews can and should result in "simple" deportation - to Gaza or to Jordan. The world accepts the alleged two-state solution. So the question is where are the Treasonous (to Israel) Palestinians or non-Jews to live? The answer is - OUTSIDE ISRAEL. Israel, it appears, does not wish Sovereignty over Gaza (a practical reality at the very least). Furthermore, Israel likewise, has no claim on the former Trans-Jordan.

Perhaps the world (or the readers here) need to be reminded that the prior King in Jordan, after it conquered the West Bank and East Jerusalem in the 1948 War thereafter granted all its former mere "Palestinians" full Jordanian citizenship. Strategically, Israel may revives such citizenship status for all the "Palestinians" within its so-called "Occupied Territories" which in fact Israel liberated from Jordan and now calls "Disputed Territories."

In summary, I'm trying to formulate a Strategy for Israel which would make its Victory on the Grou8nd a Reality. The biggest strategic issue is the Demographic one. And whether Democracy applies to Palestinians in Israel or the rest of Mandatory Palestine should ultimately depend on whether Jordan remains a Monarchy which subjugates its Palestinian residents in or out of Jordan.

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w/response from Daniel Pipes
RobertFeb 11, 2023 23:57292938
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You are right. [68 words]PrashantJan 18, 2023 23:13290759
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comment [846 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
DavidJan 7, 2023 21:45290697
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