Abul Qasim and the unhistorical sira

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 8, 2007 at 15:02

Our dear Shahriar wrote

As to the Hadith you are refering to, I would like to see the reference to it.

You will find this hadith in Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 1, no 268

1. al--isnad: Ibn Qatada from Anas ibn Malik

2. al-matn: (Ibn Anas said): the prophet used to visit his wives in a round during the day and night and they were 11 of them. Qatada: had the prohet strength for it? Anas: we used to say that the prophet was given the strengh of 30 (men).

Also read vol.1 no 270 or 267

3Ai'sha said: I scented Allah's prophet and he went round had sexual relation with all his wives

The above traditions are repeated in vol 7 nos 5,6 and 142. Et voila our dear Shahriar real pornography amy be soft core but nontheless pornography

I find it hard to believe simply because history says that the Prophet (pbuh) did not have more than 13 wives

Now how many wives and concubines did Muhammad have? The clear answer is the sira is all bogus and it is not an independent historical source and as a matter of fact no serious student of early islam will believe that Muhammad's sira does answer the question that historians try to answer and that is: "what really happened?" but the only pathetic wannabe historian that still believe the discredited Muslim sources is Karen Armstrong.

About 100 ago Henri Lammens and then Carl Becker came to the conclusion that the sira is nothing but another form of tafseer/ta'weel for the Quranic logias/pericopes and without such material we will have no sira. Just imagine if you and I are trying to write a biography of let us say Abraham Lincoln with no written sources and no extant literary sources. We will have a biography but it would be unhistorical and this is indeed what really took place here in the case of Muhammad and his sira.

Now how did the shamless 3Ulama came to the conclusion about the number Abul Qasim's wives? Again the source was the Qur'an and not real history and the Quranic saying: "marry 2,3,4 wives " (see Henri Lammens) was the source and if you add: 2+3+4= 9 and this is what we have been told (notice that in Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 7 no 142 the number is 9 and the isnad is from Anas then the same Anas tells us in Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 1 no 268 that the numer is 11! Go figure).

But the shameless 3Ualma realized that they must incorporate and add more due to the Quranic saying: "what your right hand owns" so Abul Qasim must have had 3abeed (slaves) and enter here Mariya al-Qibtiya (see allusions in Q66) and Rayhana et voila we are up to 11.

But this is not all now we have the hadith kicking in and in volume 3 no 505 we are told that women used to come to Abul Qasim and say: i want to give myself to you . And how many would be included here? from 5 to 12 so the total is as per sira is 23 (see also Ali Dashti)! And the number 23 makes sense to those shamelss 3Ulama and it fits well with muhammad's career as a prophet or 23 years!

Et voila Abul Qasim had 23 wives and concubines and only Allahu A3lam (do you know what this Allahu A3lam here really means? It means that no one had a clue). Should we believe any of this nonsense? Not really because the Sira is bogus and so is the hadith. So how many wives and concubines did Abul Qasim have? Only Allahu A3lam!

And as Chris Hitchens wrote: Islam must be the least and most interesting of all the religions

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