For z: and you flunk not just Arabic but Muslim theology too

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 30, 2006 at 14:15

I came across this little gem by accident. So here is your lesson for today:

1. Atheist in Arabic is: Mulhid.

2. Pagan in Arabic is: Wathani.

3. Pagan statues of deities in Arabic is: Athnam, and those that pray to those statues are: 3abeed al-athnam.

4. Mushrik-mushrikkin in Arabic is: polytheist(s). This is the opposite of the doctrine of tawheed or the unity of Allah.

5. The ultimate sin in Islam is: Shirk or not believeing in the unity of Allah. (notice here that murdering of 3000 innocent people in the 9/11 atrocity is not regarded by Allah as the ultimate crime. So much for an insecure deity)

More later.

You wrote: "Islam is not against the faithful Christians (eg: for those who do their good deeds and who are humble"

Nonsense as you shall see below.

Then you wrote this little gem: "The word pagan is defined as "one who is not Christian, Muslim or Jew especailly a whorshipper of a polytheistic religions" or "one who has no religion"

Nonsense again as you shall see. Could you provide us readers with your reference from a real Arabic ma3jam (Wikipedia will not be regarded as a real reference and tendentious Muslim web sites cannot be regarded as references either) that would support your assertion?

For the readers: the Arabic word wathani means pagan period.

Wathani or pagan is a very stable Arabic word.

Then you wrote: "some belive the Koran justifies hatred of Jews and Christians"

The answer here is it does as you shall see.

Now this is the way it goes and I'm following here the old Arab saying: "al-tafseer lel shaba wa al-ta'weel lel 'ulama" and here is my ta'weel:

1. Allah declars that the ultimate sin is: shirk or polytheism! Notice that the ultimate sin in Islam is not killing innocent human beings, but this is a very insecure deity.

2. Then Allah declares that the faithful are "those who do their good deeds and who are humble" as you indicated.

3. Then your Allah changes his mind in the doctrine of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh (oh I forgot that you know no Arabic: Allah changing his mind or aborgation) which means that a later dispensation will abrogate an earlier dispensation in same subject matter.

4. Now the Islamic tradtion tells us that the last revealed sura is sura number 9.

5. Now we have the infamous Q9:5 or "iqtoloo al-mushrikeen" so we know now what is the final dispensation for polytheists. Now we have to find out who are really the polytheists.

6. Then in Q9:30 your Allah states that Christians believe in the Trinity which is true therefore they must be mushrikeen or polytheists, and the Jews claim that 'Uzair (and this one is a joke and incorrect) is the son of Allah therefore the jews are mushrikeen or polytheists.

10. Now the old dispensation and to quote you: " the Koran is not against the faithful Christians "eg: for those who do their good deeds amd who are humble" would be aborgated by Q9:5 because the ultimare sin in Islam is shrik!!! (see Ibn Qatada) and in Q 9:30 your Allah redefines who is really is mushrik?

11. The new dispensation becomes Q9:30 where Allah declares war on ahl al-kitab defined by the ancient 'Ulama as the Christians and the Jews and now you see the likes of Karen Armstrong adding Hindus and Buddhists, and then we have the infamous humiliation in 9:30 and of paying the mafia tax AKA jizya.

Oh yes Islam teaches its followers to hate Jews and Christians and Hindus (most likely your ancestors that were brutalized by Islam) and Buddhists and women and dogs and art etc....

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