for dhimmi no more: bias and no substance And your arguments!

Submitted by Z_and_'Abdullah (United States), Aug 30, 2006 at 22:08

dhimmi no more

so, my friend, you made the connection between 'Abdullah and Z, hmm? well, you know enough arabic i'm sure to know what Abdullah (Abd Allah, as you said, master of arabic transliteration) means, and i'm sure you will understand that it describes my identity as best as possible.

in regards to your comment, my only answer is that you cannot be serious. surely you can't say that the way women dress these days is allright? surely you cannot tell me that seeing half-naked girls walking all over the place is something to be proud of, as if it were an aceivement. Islam never says that there is anything wrong with being a woman. Islam says that they should have some shame and modesty and not invite sin (which, looking at your obvious love of letting women dress like sluts, i'm not sure you can relate to...). so don't tell me, PLEASE, that you find it retarded that Islam tells women to cover up some. do not tell me that you disagree with it, because that i am SURE you agree with.

Now, in response to your next half, I am going to be blunt:

1. a Muslim does not need to know arabic, a Muslim is not required by Islam to know it. it is good to know, but not knowing it does not make you a bad Muslim. a Muslim DOES, however, need to understand the basic concepts of Islam, such as the Oneness of Allah, belief in the Day of Judgement, Angels, the Books, etc. these concepts should be in the heart always, and a Muslim is required to keep them in his/her heart. A Muslim puts his/her desires down (submission of will) and instead follows the basic commandments laid down by God.

for example, a Jew came to the Prophet (s) in a battle and converted to Islam. what did the Prophet (s) say? did he tell that Jew, "go and study Islam some?" did he tell that Jew, "you need some training in your belief, and you need to understand and memorize Quran some"? no. he did not. the Prophet (s) told that Jew after [the Jew] had embraced Islam, "go out and join the ranks" (i.e. go and fight). he did, and was killed. the Prophet (s) said, "[he] was the best of Jews", and the Jew was martyred. so it is clear that one does not have to have vast amounts of knowledge (not saying that we are not supposed to strive to learn) in order to be a true Muslim. it was said, for example, that the Sahaba (the companions of the Prophet (s)) had the deepest of knowledge. not the most. they knew Islam, and they had depth in their knowledge. so for you to say that my not knowing Arabic implies that I cannot be a Muslim is not only ignorant, but it is utter falsehood, and anyone with a mind could see that.

2. this is your opinion and bias. this is not information that you have misquoted, this is not a statement with false meanings (such as the one above, #1), this is only your bias. I cannot argue that, I can only tell you that you are wrong.

3. the scary part is that you are the one who does not get it, and the even scarier part is that you know it. you know that all your arguments against me have revolved around my weakness in the Arabic language. never once did you argue with Islamic facts, because the fact is that you cannot argue them. My apologies to you on the word "deen", that sparked a debate that I could not have won. you know Arabic, and that is good. so again, I am sorry. however, I will say that despite the fact that Deen does mean religion (again, I am acknowledging the fact that you know Arabic), Islam is nevertheless a complete system of life, and there are massive amounts of evidence to prove it. My regards, dear friend.

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