Poor Plato!!! and all his supporters

Submitted by Mansoor (Pakistan), Mar 22, 2008 at 03:02

Poor Plato!! you are the most unluckiest in a sense that you are unable to pick the true message from revelations of Allah SWT.

You said "No ambiguities? Read 3:7 SHAKIR: He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical. ….but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge …."

In above Verse it is clearly revealed about the secret of the terms Alf Lam Meem, Alif Lam Ra, Ya-Sin and other terms like that, can only be known by those who are firmly rooted with knowledge....People like you who are predetermined to observe the table upside down are not sane enough to understand the logic. I have full sympathy with you!!! Many places in Quran these terms are use. For your Kind information these ambiguous words are called "Loh-e-Qurani".

I am happy you have read Quran in detail but with extremely maligned vision. These words are of multiple Importance and are believed to be the codes of different tablets in which Quranic verses are preserved. Sometimes you have passwords or identification numbers which in actual don't have any meanings but they are used to open or to enter the protected files or folders in your computer. Quran used the term Loh-e-Mahfooz, which can be see with the meanings of Hard Disk, USB Memory or Memory Bank whatever you may say and I am proud that Quran is showing us and proving us that the technology much advance which we are now aware of was so sophisticatedly created billions and billions of years before. I hope this time you would again shout and say something out of sanity!!!

86:7-8SHAKIR: He is created of water pouring forth, Coming from between the back and the ribs

As for your making joke of Quran mentioning water released from between the back and ribs. See the following link and understand that this verse is purely related with the substance released by women during an intercourse...Pluto Pluto….you are becoming guilty of maligning others' mind in ignorance…better understand …better behave..

http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/wlgr/wlgr-medicine341.shtml

Regarding the setting of sun read the verse you cited, I quote here with reference to context.

[18:83] They ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say, ―I shall now recite to you an account of him.‖ [18:84] Surely, We gave him power on earth and gave him means to (have) everything (he needs). [18:85] So he followed a course, [18:86] until when he reached the point of sunset, he found it setting into a miry spring, and found a people near it. We said, ―O Dhul-Qarnain, either punish them or adopt good behavior with them.‖ [18:87] He said, ―As for him who does wrong, we shall punish him, then he will be sent back to his Lord, and He will punish him with a severe punishment. [18:88] As for the one who believes and acts righteously, he will have the best (life) as reward, and we shall speak to him politely in our directions.‖ [18:89] Thereafter, he followed a course, [18:90] until when he reached the point of sunrise, he found it rising over a people for whom We did not make any shelter against it. [18:91] Thus it was, and Our knowledge fully comprehends whatever (wealth and equipment) he had with him.

Plato you can read millions of poetries where it is mentioned that sun is set in sea, even such poeteries are written in the present era with science has proved everything. In above verse Allah SWT gave the picture of what human eye saw, I repeat Allah SWT mentioned what those people saw there. In the verse you mentioned in your post Allah SWT was revealing about a noble Prophet Dhul-Qarnain.

People here must be tapping your back again on your post but your claim to have knocked me down is again proved baseless …But I still believe that you wouldn't accept my sincere reply!!!

As for your perception that you have crossed the seven heavens (in terms of sky above earth which has seven layers) through space ships, I say I have no objection about it. The reason is Quran already told us that Man would be able to cross the sky…so there is no big deal!!!

[55:33] O genera of Jinn and mankind, If you are able to penetrate beyond the realms of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate. You cannot penetrate without power. [55:34] So, which of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

Nowhere in above verse Quran says that it is impossible for man to cross the realms of the heaven and earth. We know there is lot of power involved in lifting a rocket or a space ship to cross the sky…so Quran also gave clue as to how we can cross the sky… Mr. Pluto…any answer????

Plato and all others here must understand that Quran is not wrong, neither can be proved wrong. You put all your efforts a side and Quran is alone to defend your charges very easily. It is only the eye with clear vision and a clean heart which can accept the true message of Qura which is presently the only true and undisputed divine revelation from our Creator.

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