Our dear shaji and Q33:56 allah and his angels pray to Muhammad and it is all in black and white and more dates picking

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 31, 2009 at 17:44

Our dear Shaji who does not speak write or read Arabic but this does not stop him from making a fool of himself and our dear shaji wrote

>1. Islam says making partners to God (shirk) is the biggest sin.

Really? then let me see in surat al-ahzab aya 56 it says

inna allaha wa malli'katuh yusaalona 3ala al-nabi

do you know what this means? It means, and I will be nice here and translate it for you and here is tarjamat al-kilma/lafz

1. inna (an intensifying particle introducing a nominal clause and cab be read as truly) means truly

2. allah means allah

3. wa mala'katuh means and his angels

4. yusalunna means they pray (and here is my reference from Lisan al-3arab dictionary and you will find it in al-juz' al-khamis wa al-safha 368 and oh you can take this to one of your Arab masters to tell you what the Arabic means) and in Lisan al-3arab the word sala means al-du3a' wa al-ruku3 wa al-sujud which means that Allah and his angels pray to Muhammad

Oh and you need to stick to urdu our dear Shaji al-tablighee

5. 3ala means upon or to

6. al-nabi means the prophet

And here is trajamat al-ma3na

Truly Allah and his angels pray upon/to Muhammad

Now you have the reference and you either put up or shut up and let me repeat it one more time

Truly Allah and his angels pray upon/to Muhammad

Your Allah as well as his angels are praying and the subject of their praying is al-nabi aka Muhammad! So what is this our dear shaji al-tablighee? Let me help you: this is polytheism right? and why would Allah pray and how does he do it? and who takes care of the universe the he is praying?

And remember that when you utter the childlish sali 3ala al-nabi you are really praying to Muhammad so is Muhammad a God too our dear shaji? well it seems that your Allah prays to him

>Qur'an 33:56 says – "Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect".

ROTFL the words (they) send means yab3athu so do you find the word yab3athu in the aya? and the word blessings means al-barakat so do you find the word al-barakat in the aya mr ignorant? see what happens when you debate an issue in a book that you cannot read in its primary language?

oh i forgot: ya ayuha al-ladhina aamanu salu 3alayhi blah blah blah

Or: O you who believe (read this in present tense due to grammatical aspect) PRAY upon/to him

Oh the wa salimu tasliman? it means and provide greetings with (a worthy) greetings

And it is all in black and white this is paganism and shirk our dear shaji al-tablighee right?

>Pathetic with your transliteration, "inna allaha wa malli'katuh yusaalona 3ala al-nabi".

So why do you use my transliteration mr ignorant? Oh you can take it to one of your Arab masters and he will tell you that it is correct

>Now tell me which authentic translation gives you the meaning "praying"…..??.

Hello: it is from Lisan al-3arab mr ignorant and shame on you.

Now you either put up or shut up

>Again read - Qur'aan says the reason in 4:48 – "ALLAH forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with ALLAH is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed".

You think and I'm being sarcastic here that this is a case of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh aka Allah changing his mind thing? But it is too late

>More you want…..??.

What more? that Allah prays to Muhammad? what more can we ask for?

>Read Qur'an 40:60 – "And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation!"

What does this have to do with the fact that Allah prays to muhammad? Oh I forgot and his angels and what a fadiha or scandal

>It seems not sufficient for you. Take one more. Qur'an 39:65 – 'But it has already been revealed to thee,- as it was to those before thee,- "If thou wert to join (gods with Allah., truly fruitless will be thy work (in life), and thou wilt surely be in the ranks of those who lose (all spiritual good)".

And what does this have to do with the fact that Allah and his angels pray to Muhammad?

>No Muslim is praying to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

may be you do not but it seems that your Allah does so I have the following questions for you:

1. when Allah prays to Muhammad does his do the childish wudu'?

2. And what does allah say when he is praying to Muhammad?

3. And does his pray in the direction of a qibla too?

4. And who takes care of the universe when Allah is praying to Muhammad?

>This is what all Muslims understood from Qur'an and Prophet's teachings. Why you create such misconceptions in the mind of readers….??.

These are not misconceptions they are in the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic

>It looks like you have some personal prejudice towards Qur'an and Muslims.

Not Muslims. You are a victim of islam and I'm here to help you to realize that islam is no more than Arabian imperialism

Oh the Qur'an? it is poor literature that is no match to the Gita or the Dhammapada or Firdawsi's Shahnemah or Virgil's Aeneid or Homer's Iliad and Odyssey or even the Bible. The Qur'an is full of foreign words and grammatical errors and poor spelling of Arabic words and the Qur'an does not make any sense without tafseer/ta'weel but it still claims to be a kitab mubeen maktub bi 3arabi faseeh

Stop being a victim and be free again

Oh there is more in ayat al-jizya it says that

qaatiluu al-ladhina la yu'minuna bi lahi blah...blah...blah...wa la yuharimuna maharma allah wa rasuluh

Well I'm sure you agree with me that Allah says that he is the God of the nasarra wa al-yahood. Right? And they believe that he is their God. Right? But neither al-yahood aw al-nassara believe that Muhammad was a prophet.. Right? Do you know what the above means? It means that Muhammad is as important as your Allah and do you know what this means? It means SHIRK

How come you did not know that?

>Even for refute, you must have quoted the full verse. Your "blah blah" worth no reply and it reveals your ideological voidness.

Oh i forgot that they have to pay the jizya and oh the words 3an yad? no one has a clue what they mean

>Yes, Allah is God of all creatures. If Jews or christians don't believe in Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), how that elevates him as important as Allah and become shirk…..??.

Because they is what it says in ayat al-jizya remember?

> Muslims don't consider Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as important as Allah.

Well in ayat al-jizya he is as important as Allah

>Strange observations…..??.

What observations? I only tell you what the Qur'an says and what the books of al-turath al-islami say you? you are ignorant

>You yourself don't know what you are quoting and you are accusing me of ignorant……!!!!.

Then prove me wrong or shut up

I urge you to stop being a victim of the arabs and I urge you to revert to the religion of your ancestors and you know what? Vedanta Dharma as a Hindu doctrien is miles ahead of the bogsu taweed of islam

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