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Our dear Shaji al-tablighee and islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only! And this is what the Qur'an really saysReader comment on item: Islam in American Textbooks Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 4, 2009 at 08:06 Our dear shaji does not seem to be aware that the Qur'an really says that islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only I wrote: Oh and here is your bonus for today: the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic says in Qur'an 14:4 that Islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs >Qur'an 14:4 says – "We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. The rest of the blah blah blah is deleted Well let us see what Q14:4 says: wa ma arsalna min rasulan ila bilisani qawnihi Or and here is tarajamt al-lafz/kilma 1. wa ma means and not 2. arsalna means sent but read it as send (grammatical aspect) 3. min rasulan means from messenger 4. ila bilisani means except in the language 5. qawmihi means his people And here is tarjamat al-ma3na we do not send a messenger unless (he comes) in the language of his people Do you know what this means? it means the following: 1. Allah sends a prophet to a qawm 2. This prophet must speak the language of his qawm 3. Muhammad's mother tongue and the mother tongue of his qawm was Hijazi Arabic and this is why he was sent him to the Hijazi Arabs because he spoke their language 4. Allah sent 120000 prophets to different nations as per hadith because each prophet was able to speak the language of his qawm right? 5. Then Muhammad was not the prophet that was sent to your people our dear shaji as you told us that your mother tongue is some Indian language and it ain't Arabic right? 5. Then who was the prophet that was sent to your people? let me guess: ganesh or is it rama? Oh and let us examine your bogus translation and where would I find hata yaj3al kuli shay'in waadihan lahum? You will not find it is this aya and do you know what this means? It means 1. You cannot read the Qur'an in Arabic 2. You have to depend on bogus translations 3. It also means that the source of your translations is really editing your Allah's words so you think that I should tell al-wahabiyuun that a maskeen min el-hind is editing Allah words? 4. And here is your bonus for today: there is an alif missing in your Allah rasm of the word ARSLNK! This word had to be edited by adding the missing alif and so much for the unedited Qur'an See what happens when you debate an issue in a language that you cannot read write or speak?shame on you > Prophets were sent to mankind with guidance and to teach them how to worship One and Only God. Really? there is one god? right? then who really created this god?Hint: check sirat rasul allah pages 572-573 if you can read the Arabic that is >Any Prophet to people whom he was assigned spoke in their language only. Right and Muhammad spoke only Arabic and he did not speak any Indian language whihc means that he is not the prophet of your people > First, AIIah sent down His Message in the language of the people from among whom a Prophet was raised so that they might not have any excuse left that they could not understand the language of the Message. Then islam must be the religion of the arabs only and you ain't no Arab >Secondly, this ruled out the presumption that a Messenger was ever given the Message in a different language merely for the sake of a miracle. Oh I see you are maknig things up as you go >For Allah considered it more important to make the people understand the Message and guide them rightly than to satisfy their curiosity. More evidence that islam is really the religion of the Arabs only right? >Obviously the purpose could best be served only if the Message was sent down to them in their own language by their Prophet and not in any other. You have nothing to say except your usual gobbeldygook . So it seems that our dear shaji al-tablighee has nothing to say and he now knows that the Qur'an really says that islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs and what he does not see to know is that there is more evidence from the Qur'an that Muhammad was only sent to his people the Hijazi Arabs in the following verses: Q10;47, Q13;8, Q35;24, Q28;75, Q16;113 and more evidence that islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only Even your masters the Arabs realized early on that islam is really the religion of the Arabs only as per Q14:4 (see Syuti's Itiqan) and this is why they had the concept of al-wali wa al-mawali and how come you did not know that? >In addition to that, Oh there is an addition? I knew that this one was coming and do you know why? because all of you tablighees sound the same and repeat the same nonsense > Qur'an 21:107 says - We sent thee (Prophet) not, but as a Mercy for all creatures. Really? your translation is bogus because: 1. Where would I find the word nabi (your bogus prophet) in the aya? you will not find it 2. And where would I find your bogus li kul al-makhluqat or all creatures? you will not find it and based on your flawed translation did Allah send Muhammad as a rasul to let us see the monkeys and the pigs and the snakes after all they are creatures too?! 3. Where do I find the name of Muhammad in the above aya? you will not find it 4. The aya says that the subject of such aya was sent as mercy or rahma and not as a nabi or rasul right? then do you think that the subject of this aya might be some one like Ghandi or the Buddha or mother Teresa? after all Muhammad was only an Arabian warlord and caravan raider? 5. How can you be sure that the subject of the aya is not me after all he spoke to me too? So your evidence is no evidence You would have a case if your Allah would have said qul wa ma arsalnaka ya Muhammad ila rasulan wa nabi li kul al-bashr Or say and we only send you as a messneger and peophet to all mankind But this is not what the Qur'an says as it says in Q14:4 Now let me fix your bogus translation and let us see that the aya says in Arabic wa ma arsalnaaka ila rahmatan lil 3alameen And here is tarjamat al-kilma/lafz 1. wa ma means and not 2. arsalnaaka means we send you 3. ila rahmatan or except mercy 4. lel 3alameen means for the peoples And here is tarjamat al-ma3na and we only send you except as mercy to the peoples >So, Prophet (peace be upon him) was not meant only for Hijazi Arabs but a mercy for all creatures. gobbeldygook In several places of Qur'an, Allah addresses "Naas", that is "people" and it's not any particular sect or group. Oh the word al-nas? No I'm not interested in debating an issue in a language Arabic that is that you cannot read speak or write Snip more gobbeldygook islamic tablighee nonsense Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (278) on this item
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