to WeAreAllDanes and Kevin M

Submitted by tariq (United Arab Emirates), Apr 5, 2006 at 09:16

""Hitler was a christian, he had good relations with the church and a very christian upbringing. it was his christianity which led him to kill six million jews."

This is a lie on many levels."
http://www.geocities.com/islamandchristianity2/hitler.html
http://www.geocities.com/islamandchristianity2/hitler2.html
The site is under developement

"For one, if you think that Christian teachings lead to a desire to kill Jews, you understand none of it."
Actually i think that christianity leads to the desire to kill almost every1:
"Whoever sacrifices to any god, save to the LORD only, shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:20) (in other words kill any1 who is not a jew or christian)"

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)


"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a CAPITAL OFFENSE. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)


"There is no Sura 9 in the New Testament."
I know. Bible has the old testament

""I'll make these damned parsons feel the power of the state in a way they would have never believed possible. For the moment, I am just keeping my eye upon them: if I ever have the slightest suspicion that they are getting dangerous, I will shoot the lot of them. This filthy reptile raises its head whenever there is a sign of weakness in the State, and therefore it must be stamped on. We have no sort of use for a fairy story invented by the Jews." - Adolph Hitler quoted by Allan Bullock's "HItler: A Study in Tyranny"."

Shows nothing.
Read my quotes:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I AM FIGHTING FOR THE WORK OF THE LORD." –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"On April 20, 1939, Archbishop Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's birthday. The celebrations, initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) became a tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send "warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany" and added with "fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars."
(Hitler's Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)

read the last quote here:http://www.geocities.com/islamandchristianity2/hitler2.html

"As he gained power, the less he cared to claim any Christian faith. He didn't have to lie anymore to keep the people's support."
please look at the pictures on the webpages i have given u

""Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church."

http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/piusXII.htm"
Plz quote the relevent parts

"For someone so seriously outside of Christianity, what would've been the point? They did what they could at the time. One thing of interest to this debate is the popularity of "Mein Kampf" in the Islamic world......"
I live in an islamic world. mein kampf is not famous here

to Kevin M

"First, Hitler was a neo-pagan who wanted to establish a neo-pagan state (Aryan). Just because a person is born into or raised in any religeous denomination doesn't mean they belong to it"
did u read his sentences?
also visit http://www.geocities.com/islamandchristianity2/hitler.html and look at the pictures. see how the pope got cosy with him?

"I'm sure you've heard of apostasy (your own cute little justification for murder)"
plz read my reply to sidda on apostacy here:http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/40932

"f Adolf Hitler walked into a church he'd be struck by lightning. "
lol! how come he came out alive??!!(http://www.geocities.com/islamandchristianity2/hitleleavingchurch.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/islamandchristianity2/Inchurch.jpg)

"Second, nothing he ever did or said was in support of an ambition to promote Christianity."
u need to read my (previous) comment again.

"His one and only loyalty was to the Third Reich, peopled by Aryans. Christians had no place in his vision of the future."
when did he say that?

"Calling Hitler a Christian is one of the oldest, lamest arguments still floating around in the Muslim world."
the fact that christianity leads to violence is disguised by creating myths that hitler was an atheist.
bible believers are told that all non-bible believers should be 'doomed':"

"Whoever sacrifices to any god, save to the LORD only, shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:20)

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