spare us

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Nov 23, 2009 at 21:33

Dawud writes :

"your whole arguement is bogus because we do not say allah guides people at random, those who seek truth with a sincere heart and reach out to the creator will find islam. "
Patently untrue. A Christian would say they find God, a Hindu would say they find Brahma, a Buddhist will say they find their Buddha nature. Non of them would say they find the religion of Islam. When anybody experiences truth to any degree - no bright light flashes - no signpost comes up saying to recite the 'shahadah' etc. It has nothing to do with Islam. You claim to monopolise the discovery of truth by saying it is one and the same as discovering Islam? What a complete crock!

The 'religion' and all its exotic trappings and absurd rites and rituals and beliefs called 'Islam' that you have accepted is a poor substitute for the realisation of Truth. Just because 1 billion other people are deluded does not mean that you should follow in their footsteps. But you get some comfort in numbers I suppose, you just become one of the crowd, bending over in the mosque etc in the mistaken belief that doing this will bring you to a greater realisation of your true self.

" Do you deny that there is one underlying fundamental truth that explains the creator and the created?"
It is called Consciousness or Brahman - no religion owns it - all have a poor and distorted understanding of it. Other religions have had their reformations but Islam has never had to look inwardly and admit to itself that ultimately it hasn't got a clue. It's going through that process now - because on the whole it's actions and inadequacies are getting reflected back to it - thanks in part to modern infidel technology. And that's why Islamist fundamentalism is upon us. The fanatics acting out their delusions - interpreting with their obscenely twisted minds the already twisted statements in the Koran. The moderate Muslims left unsure due to cognitive dissonance brought about by having to accept the realities of modern life (if they live in the west) yet at the same time trying to rationalise the absurd beliefs of their antiquated Middle Eastern religion. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

"Do you deny that the creator has the power to teach us this truth if this creator so willed to do so? Do you deny that even though this creator has that power that it has been left up to us to seek guidance from his messengers? Which is it that you deny? "

You seek guidance from truth itself. I would say Dhimmi - along with every other non-Muslim on this board would deny that your 'prophet' was a prophet at al. Of course you're not going to admit that - too much ego. But using the pathetic excuses Muslims have for that 7th century Bedouin's behaviour, I could make out Hitler to be Saint Adolph of Braunau.

You wouldn't know mighty Mo if you fell over him - and yet you claim to have some relationship with him?

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