European Enlightenment - 'Christianity's Civilization Missions' - Part I - 'Kill them all ! God will know His own.'

Submitted by Turk (Turkey), Jan 27, 2010 at 08:57

I refer your inability to see most rationally visible things to your Islam which you have, characteristically enough, not deigned to address even once in your reply, albeit it does stand at the core of all our discussion and ALL the problems jihadist Turkey has been creating. The difference between Christianity and Islam is roughly speaking reducible to the difference between the respective founders of both religions. On the one hand you have a noble learned man who hasn't harmed a single human being in his life and on the other you can see a primitive greedy Beduin gangster with a pack of blood-thirsty cut-throats and criminals building their new 'faith' on the mountains of cut off heads and corspes and ordering their followers to do exactly the same! You have on the one hand a man of peace, on the other an evil terrorist and murderer.The first man is called Jesus, the other Muhammed

Did you remember the reply of Arnaud-Armaury, the Abbot of Citeaux in the 1200's as when he was asked how to identify the heretics prior to slaughtering all 20,000 residents of the town ?

"Kill them all. God will know His own" (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset )

"Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work." Adolf Hitler.

You should also remember his words after the assasination attemptin Munich in November, 1939. His response: "Now I am completely content. The fact that I left the Burgerbraukeller earlier than usual is a corroboration of Providence's intention to let me reach my goal."

The Pope also sent his special personal congratulations! Later the Pope was to publicly describe Hitler's opposition to Russia as a "high-minded gallantry in defense of the foundation of Christian culture." Several German bishops openly supported Hitler's invasion of Russia, calling it a "European crusade."

Your reply fails to explain how the peacefull religion of the circumsized Carpenter turned out to be an excuse of dominion, exploitation, brutality, frequently supported by the Church. How do you associate inquisitions, mass murders and all other atrocities done in name of someone who never harmed anyone all though his life ?

Did I 'deign' enough ? Do you want to further discuss it ? Go ahead, be my guest..

What disturbs me is to see people like you , proving that suburbs of Lodz are even better breeding grounds than Wisconsin Farms when it comes to raising 'able' McCarthyists trying to make an internet career based on mediveal stupidty.

This is what I refer to…

How the Byzantines under peaceful cricumstances tended to win hearts and minds of their savage foes is visible by their success in bringing Christianity and literature to the South Slavs and to the Russians.We Slavs owe teh Bzyantines our first written works, the first testomonie sof our language, the first steps in the civilized life. The case of winning the Russians with humanity is well-documented by another medieval source your Islamically motivated ignorance must surely reject a priori.

While my questions are still pending and floating above your head , you keep on strolling around with your previous emotional arguments consisting of 'how beautifull these Byzantines were' avoiding the answers you were supposed to write down, but popping out with above new and strange Slavo/Byzantian love affair of yours.

By the way, the Russians that 'were won to humanity' are still telling that 'Stalin's murders were entirely rational' in their new text books.

( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1051871/Stalins-mass-murders-entirely-rational-says-new-Russian-textbook-praising-tyrant.html )

And you are writing an ode to them here forgetting also the 150.000 Poles that were exterminated by NKVD operations - It really makes me wonder if ignominy is a Polish national inheritance after reading what you have written above..

The Church of Hagia Sophia mentioned in this account is one of these innumerable churches which you Moslem vampires have desecrated and stolen not being able to construct anything similar to the cathedral of Justinian.

Haga Sophia is still standing thanks to constant maintanance although it has seen two big earth quakes till then , moreover she is not surrounded by the ugly concrete buildings like Pantheon of Athens . Wish you could come and see it one day , but we both know that most probably you will never be able to during your lifetime. Sad..

So keep on looking at its videos and photos.

For building something similar, have a look at Taj Mahal , which is definitely more meaningfull in terms of aim of construction.

The The oldest Russian Chronicle written by Nestor tells the following story udne rthe year 987 (6495):

" Vladimir summoned together his vassals and the city elders, and said to them: "Behold, the [Volga] Bolgars came before me urging me to accept their religion . Then came the Germans and praised their own faith [Catholicism]; and after them came the Jews [most likely rabbis from the receding Khazar khaganate... Finally the [Eastern Orthodox] Greeks appeared, criticizing all other faiths but commending their own, and they spoke at length, telling the history of the whole world from its beginning. …

And ? What is the relation of Kiev Chronicle by Monk Nestor telling 'How sweet Greeks were speaking' here ? What exactly ?

I know that the above passage is entirely lost on your Islamism but I will never forget it until my last day although I am no Christian myself. It struck me the first time I read it and keeps amazing me even now after so many years.

Sorry Janus. 'I am no Christian either' , but its does not struck me, it does not amaze me as well. Most probably its due to the fact that Kiev Chronicles are mostly taken from verbal sagas and Byzantine chronicles. The other reason why it does not move me is ; I am not living in the past like you do.

Aren't you suggesting that because you don't know your own history your ignorance of the subject should be an enouragement for us to imitate you? If so, thanks a lot but I decline the offer to share your ignorance.

No I am not suggesting that. I am just suggesting you to be a bit more carefull when you are replying, because you have the habit of speaking about the things you dont know and subsequently making a clown out of yourself.

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