Last phase of 'Enlightenment' - The story of a Pregnant woman ,'civilized' 17 times during 8 minutes in a Court Room

Submitted by Turk (Turkey), Jan 31, 2010 at 17:00

Now you ask what I am "selling" here. My short answer is - I am selling the most deficit commodity in Turkey - …." ... ? What a remarkable expression! In Kerkeling's eyes he saw that light and he extinguished in it in his victim's blood for Allah's and Ataturk's glory!

Its quite amazing that you speak about lack of freedom of expression in Turkey, although you mostly base your arguments on the critical articles from Turkish internet sites, newspapers and sources. Strange, isnt it ?. It is also funny to see that you are using the statements of the killer 'there was no light in his eyes' as an evidence of brutality , bu not insanity , which really makes me wonder that someone who 'knows' such a case very well , strangely seems to be 'uninformed' about the killers being in a mental instutition for a year before he comitted above murder. Rest is a real comedy , where you try to link all the case to the case to Mustafa Kemal, and the glory of Allah..

Well .. If you are not really playing , if you really believe in above , our discussion is useless and what you need is professional help , not someone to discuss.. Sorry , no offense.

If this is what the mixture of both Islam and Kemalism produce in peaceful times, one can imagine what would behaviour this man would display in times of upheaval and rebellion if he were sent to pacify Christian villages in Pontus or Peloponnesus?

Mustafa Kemal in Peloponnesus… Thats a real gem . Let me know more about M. Kemal's presence in Peloponnesus ..

Meantime , please let me hear a few words on the following ;

'There was not even an organized resistance at the time of the Greek occupation. Yet the Greeks are persisting in their oppression, and they have continued to burn villages, kill Turks and rape and kill women and young girls and throttle to death children ,' By Taner Akcam .. Remember him ? He is one of the staunch supporters of Armenian Genocide..

"The Greek army of occupation have been employed in the extermination of the Muslim population of the Yalova-Gemlik peninsula. The facts established -burning of villages, massacres, terror of the inhabitants, coincidence of place and date- leave no room for doubt in regard to this. The atrocities which we have seen, or of which we have seen the material evidence, were the work of irregular bands of armed civilians(tcheti) and of organised units of the regular army...Instead of being disarmed and broken up, the bands have been assisted in their activities and have collaborated hand in hand with organised units of regulars" Arnold J. Toynbee..

" Manisa...almost completely wiped out by fire...10,300 houses, 15 mosques, 2 baths, 2,278 shops, 19 hotels, 26 villas…[destroyed]. Cassaba (present day Turgutlu) was a town of 40,000 souls, 3,000 of whom were non-Muslims. Of these 37,000 Turks only 6,000 could be accounted for among the living, while 1,000 Turks were known to have been shot or burned to death. Of the 2,000 buildings that constituted the city, only 200 remained standing. Ample testimony was available to the effect that the city was systematically destroyed by Greek soldiers, assisted by a number of Greek and Armenian civilians. Kerosene and gasoline were freely used to make the destruction more certain, rapid and complete. Alasehir, hand pumps were used to soak the walls of the buildings with Kerosene. As we examined the ruins of the city, we discovered a number of skulls and bones, charred and black, with remnants of hair and flesh clinging to them. Upon our insistence a number of graves having a fresh-made appearance were actually opened for us as we were fully satisfied that these bodies were not more than four weeks old.the time of the Greek retreat through Alasehir]" James Loder Park, the U.S. Vice-Consul in Istanbul at the time

Turkish Massacres in Pontus? Come on Janus , Lets leave empty words and crippled comments, interpretions aside , lets speak with sources.. Your words can echoe in some empty heads but not here, it is just me , you and the Sancho Panza here (just arrived) – Noone to sell your cheap propaganda…

Also have a look at the following as well, I am sure that you missed this case as you were too busy with surfing in Turkish news sites all day long looking for something that you could use here and there after distorting it enough..

BERLIN (AP) - Prosecutors say a 28-year-old German who fatally stabbed a 31-year-old pregnant Egyptian woman in a courtroom in eastern Germany was driven by a deep hate of foreigners. Dresden prosecutor Christian Avenarius said Friday that authorities believe the man, who was not identified, was acting on his own and did not belong to any far-right groups, but that he harbored a deep hatred of Muslims. The woman was to testify againt him in court. «It was very clearly a xenophobic attack of a fanatical lone wolf,» Avenarius said. The man remains in detention and prosecutors have opened an investigation on suspicion of murder for stabbing the woman 18 times during a trial on Wednesday. The woman's husband was also injured when he tried to intervene to protect her. He remained hospitalized in critical condition Friday.
Authorities have not released the identities of the woman or her husband. The woman was to testify against the young man in a court case brought on after she filed a complaint with authorities against him in 2008 for calling her an «Islamist» and a «terrorist» on a playground.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/26/german-court-wife-killing

Pregnant woman, 17 times and her husband 6 times in court room during 8 minutes. Excuse : Deep hatred of Muslims, xenophobia , fanatism.. ..

If you would like to know , the the stabber is Russian (The ones that were won to humanity , remember? ) of German descent ..

What you were selling Ianus ? Antidote ? Is it cheap ?

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