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On the Civil War in Israel to this day, and at least since 1947, or since 70 ADReader comment on item: Why Israelis Shy from Victory Submitted by Robert (United States), Sep 2, 2018 at 09:31 On the Civil War in Israel to this day, and at least since 1947, or since 70 AD I suggest you replace the term "Victory" with "Vanquish," or better yet "Pacify." Except for its metaphorical meaning of "Winning," I don't think "Victory" is a good enough word for what I understand you would like Israel to achieve. One better word I recommend is "Vanquish" because it's scope is goes beyond the military field. As you well know, in 1948 Israel "miraculously" defeated 5 or so invading armies of foreign Arab countries while engaged in a Civil War against its Arab neighbors in what was then Palestine. In 1956, Israel again was "victorious," but this time it was accomplished jointly with England and France when Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal. However, in 1967 Israel's "victory" was all its when it defeated all its Arab enemies while extending beyond its Armistice lines to the whole of the remnant of the former Palestine Mandate excerpted from the former Transjordan which subsequently became Jordan. I've recited this history which you know extremely well in order to emphasize that, strictly speaking, military "victory" is not at issue for Israel. Rather, the issue essentially is the non-military one: what comes next after the military generals of have achieved their military goals. In fact, I shall argue that it precisely such a term as "Victory" which misleads the public especially in undue preoccupation with military tactics against the Palestinians, whereas it is only Iran, as Netanyahu repeatedly claimed, possess a serious existential threat to the Jewish State of Israel. Much of what I want to say has been well put in writing by great Israeli official in 2002, Dore Gold (1953-), regarding the distinction between "Occupied Territories" as opposed to "Disputed Territories." His excellent legal, political, and diplomatic analysis is expressed here: Jerusalem Letter / Viewpoints The only substantial and serious criticism I have of his view is that he omits the Coup de Grass of his argument – that the Jewish State of Israel is in a continuous state of Civil War against its Arab population who have called themselves Palestinians who did not wish to be Israelis – until very recently, perhaps, some, as the King of Jordan recently observed and reported. It is my view that if Israel is "loosing," the loss is mainly in the non-military realm; if Israel isn't "winning," it is in the diplomatic and Hasbara realms where it has been most inept. In the 19th century in Europe Nationalism had emerged together with Irredentist Revolutions. "Racism" did not mean what it did later it was still indistinguishable with legitimate Nation of the French people of the French Revolution. Subsequently, it also inspired the Germans under Bismarck to seek to form a National State of out the German Confederation that followed the defeat of the French empire under Napoleon Bonaparte. Poland and Finland eventually split of from the Russian Empire, as did the Baltic countries of the former Ottoman Empire in the 20th Century. It is in this context that Israel's "Thomas Jefferson," the Austrian Empire Jewish journalist, Theodor Herzl, had published in 1896 in Vienna his pamphlet or book, "Der Judenstaat" ("The Jewish State"). And only a year later, in 1897, The First Zionist Congress convened. It is to be emphasized that the Jews not only have a Religion – they also have a Nationality; they were previously known as a Race, before that term was discredited by Racism. Because of that unfortunate pseudo-scientific heritage among all peoples, the term "Nation" replaced the illegitimate term" Race" (which carries the connotation of Racism). It is only the Jewish people who are "favored" regarding a "national home," under the restriction that the "civil and religious rights" of the "existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine" not be prejudiced. This distinction is further amplified by the recognition that Jews have "rights and political status" in "other countries." Accordingly, the "existing non-Jewish communities" do not have a "political right." At best, existing non-Jews in Palestine only have political rights as individuals. The recently adopted Basic Law of Israel, which recognizes Israel as a Jewish state essentially expresses these provisions of the League of Nations that were continued by its successor organization, the United Nations – Israel is the National Home of the Jewish people, while other communities may live there as equal full citizens free to exercise their civil and religious liberties. But there is also this total failure on the part of the Israelis establishment to take into consideration the history of "the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country" [emphasis added]. 6,000,000 Jews were exterminated during the Holocaust under the German Nazi, French Vichy, and Italian Fascist regimes. And subsequently, Jews in the Soviet and Communist countries were forced to flee as refugees because of the loss of their civil, religious, and political rights and status. And later, after the establishment of Israel, the Jews in the Arab and Muslim countries also lost their civil, religious, and political status and became refugees. After military defeats there generally follows "police" action. In the case of Gaza, Israel's withdrawal was followed by rebellion against Abbas's Palestinian Authority. This has the unintended consequence of a division against united Palestinian interests which should wisely be exploited by Israel in its own interests to the extent that the Palestinians refuse to compromise and settle their difference with Israel and its governing coalition. In summary, everything follows naturally from the recognition that Israel is engaged in a Civil War since at least 1947 before Independence, and continuously from Independence ever since 1948 to the present day. Accordingly, Israel as the only Sovereign within all of former Mandatory Palestine is the only state which has legal authority to impose its will on Palestine. It also has the only right to invite other foreign Sovereign powers, such as the United States, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, to assist in the Palestinian Arab Rebellion and "Devolution" (term I coin for "going down," as in the case of another Arab Rebellions, including Arab Spring and ISIS. Israel has also the legal authority to penalize the Israeli Arab members of the Knesset for Treason for going outside (as inside) of Israel and asserting the Political Status of non-Jews against the Jewish State of Israel engaged in its Civil War. All other issues follow logically from recognizing Israel as engaged in a continuous Civil War, which requires Police action, instead of Military action, with the exceptions is Iran, and its several "tentacles" in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq, attempting through its Crescent to complete its eventual Encirclement of Israel-Palestine. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". Daniel Pipes replies: I appreciate the constructive criticism but "victory" quite exactly expresses what I hope Israel to achieve. If you want to be even more precise, it's a Palestinian defeat. Reader comments (72) on this item
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