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One makes peace only with the enemy?
Reader comment on item: Why Israelis Shy from Victory
Submitted by Yakov Faitelson (United States), Sep 5, 2018 at 16:45
Frequently repeated phrase in Israel: One makes peace only with the enemy ... But the Israelis forget to complete this sentence to the logical end as the history of mankind dictates it: One makes peace only with the defeated enemy under the conditions set by the victor. Israel insists on ignoring this proven formula, thereby turning the situation into a chronic disease.
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| 2 | A Simple Analogy. [40 words] | Reynald de Chatillon | Sep 10, 2018 01:19 | 244792 | |
| Your simple analogy is indeed very useful … [205 words] | Martin J. Malliet | Sep 12, 2018 11:11 | 244792 | ||
| Your simple analogy as also been very helpful … [288 words] | Martin J. Malliet | Sep 13, 2018 02:13 | 244792 | ||
| A Simple Clarification. [89 words] | Reynald de Chatillon | Sep 14, 2018 01:33 | 244792 | ||
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| 3 | But the "War"is waging primarily outside Israel-Palestine [411 words] | Robert | Sep 3, 2018 09:24 | 244587 | |
| 1 | It is not based on logic [172 words] | Bart Benschop | Sep 3, 2018 04:38 | 244582 | |
| 3 | On the Civil War in Israel to this day, and at least since 1947, or since 70 AD [1569 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Robert | Sep 2, 2018 09:31 | 244573 | |
| 1 | Jews Are Reluctant Warriors [218 words] | Dave | Sep 1, 2018 13:42 | 244557 | |
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