Bryan, it won't work

Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Apr 12, 2007 at 01:11

Bryan Jackon wrote:

"Moderate Islam (secular Islam as this article calls it) is our way to fix this mess."

"Moderate" Islam does not exist in any significant number. I have challenged people (including Dr. Pipes) to show me where there is any significant, organized reform movement anywhere in the Islamic world, and to date no one has been able to provide an answer. That's because there are none.

"Moderate Muslim organizations and leaders should have our full support no matter what happens, unless they burn our trust."

Which moderate Muslim organizations? Can you name even one? There are no significant moderate movements in Islam.

"Al-Queda, Hamas, Jemaah Islamiah, Muslim Brotherhood, Abu Sayyaf - we make these organizations, and anyone who works with or for or is a member of these organizations, a target."

Then we would also have to target CAIR and most Muslims in America, who support CAIR and other Muslim organizations that commit terror. Few people are willing to acknowledge that reality.

"There are more of us than them. We have more money and bigger guns than them. We are also smarter and more forward-thinking than them. Let's start working on this."

All the money and guns in the world are worthless if we don't have the guts to use them and if we refuse to honestly acknowledge the enemy. And that is indeed the case today.

"Every nation STOPS buying oil from Iran. And we say publicly that we disagree with the Iranian regime, and that we will deal with moderate, democratic, secular Muslim nations, AND THAT'S IT."

It won't work. First of all, OPEC, the Arab League and other Arab/Muslim organizations will refuse to cooperate. They'll fight it in the UN and elsewhere. Iran is the 4th largest oil exporting and producing country in the world. Good luck getting anyone to refuse buying oil from them. We saw how faithful even our so-called "Western allies" such as France and Germany were when it came to upholding oil sanctions against Iraq. And America, the largest buyer of oil, gets none from Iran.

Besides, China signed a natural gas deal with Iran that could be worth $100 billion to $200 billion for Iran. Sanctions simply WILL NOT WORK.

"The rest of the world follows suit, and China cannot buy all of the Middle East's oil. Result? They change course, and fast. Iran would go first, for the reasons mentioned above."

Keep dreaming. That's wishful thinking at best, fantasizing in all honesty. It simply will not happen. The Muslim countries, Russia, China, and most South American countries will not support us in this. Many of our so-called allies will also refuse. History has proven that sanctions are useless against tyrancies such as Iran.

As I keep saying, the enemy is Islam itself. It is not "radical Islam" or "Islamists" or any other ridiculous euphemism. It is Islam. Period. Islam is radical at its core. It needs to reform, and sanctions will not achieve that goal. Force is needed. Deportation, isolation, and deterrence. Nothing else will work.

People like Daniel Pipes keep referring to WWII and Nazi Germany as well as the Cold War with the Soviets and trying to say we should handle Islam the same way. But when confronted with the fact that the West refuses to deal with Islam the way we dealt with Nazi Germany and the Soviets, those who make the comparison go silent. ...

We defeated the Nazis by destroying Germany. We did not target "Nazists" or "Radical Germans". We killed Germans, period. If it was German, we insulted it, we attacked it, we blew it up and we killed it. We did not worry about offending Germans by calling them "krauts", we did not wring our hands in dismay over targetting civilians (we firebombed entire cities full of civilians!). That is how war is fought. That is how war is won. The object is to destroy not only the enemy's ability to fight, but its will to fight.

We defeated the Soviets by threatening them with nuclear annihilation if they attacked us.

No one who makes this comparison (including Dr. Pipes) will comment on the discrepancy of their arguments. They claim we should fight Islam the way we fought Nazi Germany and the Soviets, but in the very next breath they refuse agree to fighting Islam the way we fought Nazi Germany and the Soviets. They refuse to target Islamic cities, they refuse to deter Islam (or Islamic countries) with the threat of annihilation. In short, they refuse to do the very thing they suggest we do, ie fight the Islamic threat the way we fought the Nazi and Soviet threats.

They can't have it both ways, but they refuse to comment, which leads me to believe they're being overly academic and ignorant of reality.

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