Hasan:Hadiths and Sira is based on witnessed and recorded history, Quran is based on just one mans self serving testimony

Submitted by Nazia (United States), Apr 24, 2007 at 01:06

Hasan: By denying hadiths you are denying Quran. Quran says over 40 times "Obey Allah , obey Mohammed". It also says, Obeying Mohammed is obeying Allah (4.80) and Mohammed is your role model (33.21). Quran says many places to follow Mohammed. Thus quran gave equal status to what Mohammed said and did (sira and hadiths)with quran which is what Allah said. If what is in hadiths and siras are lies then where did you find the true history and the context of quranic ayas that you are quoting with such confidence and telling my refs are wrong. My refs are sahih hadiths and siras which the muslim majority believes in and on which most sharia laws are based on, what is your source of info Hasan, sanitized books the US mosques gave you when they converted you from Jon Pierre to Hasan Pierre?

The fact is hadiths and Siras are based on witnessed history, Quran is based on the statements of a single violent man with no witnessrs. Hasan you believe in they fairytales and self serving ayas of an uneducated man which claimed that Allah allowed him to rob kill and rape as Allah's true words without a single witness, but deny the history witnessed by hundreds of pious sahabis and chronicled by many reputable islamic scholars which confirms that Mohammed robbed killed and raped . Besides these are the same pious men who were also the witnesses of those quranic ayas when it was compiled many years after his death.

For your info, Quran is full of contradictions, historical mistakes, childish tales, grammatical errors, simple mathematical errors and stupid science and astronomy statements. As far as scientific knowledge is concenrd there is more of that in an elementary school science book than in Quran. There is ample proof that Quran has been changed around and compiled to the form we see it in the Abbasid days . That was the same period when hadiths were compiled .

Rashad Khalifa of submitters also denied hadiths and was killed in cold blood by islamists. Thus, you and I are both infidels in the eyes of true muslims for whom islam calls beheading.

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