"mohammed" with common sense it is just a matter of whom you picked up!

Submitted by Hassan Pierre (Philippines), Apr 17, 2007 at 22:31

the self-confessed ex-muslim "mohammed" said: "Where did you read your history man? Did you write it yourself? You appear to be a hadith denying submitter with your own interpretation of quran. Quran is without context or chronology since it is a mumbo jumbo and self serving ayas cooked up by Mohammed and written down and manipulated many years later. Right or wrong, the only available original and earliest history is from Ishaq Tabari, Sad , Waqqidi and sahih hadiths...You may deny above hadiths and history but you submitters believe in the fairy tales and self serving ayas of Quran as Allah word ranted by Mohammed,( who lied killed , robbed and and raped) without a single witness but deny hadiths islamic history witnessed and chronicled by pious scholars of much better character than Mohammed."

You must be aware of the fact that, unlike during the past centuries, almost all Muslims now are already properly educated and very well aware that the hadiths and history are not altogether true and genuine reports about prohet Muhammad. We true muslims never denied the existence of Hadith compilation and reports from history. Your accusation that i deny hadiths or history is simply wrong and misleading!

what we deny are only those reports which are in disagrrement of the principles of the Holy Qur'an! Muslims knew very well that the Hadiths and History reports are just a collection of traditions by fallible people, which some of them have vested interest during at least more or less 300 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Common sense dictates that all its reports should be received with critical minds and must be evalutated as per the words of Allah in the Holy Qur'an.

The reason perhaps that you reject islam is because you have no critical mind and foolishly regarded all the hadiths and report in history as all true where in fact hadiths and history is not a revelation from God to Muhammad, but just theworks of later muslims! You should rather use the Holy Qur'an the only revelation of Prophet Muhammad as standard in knowing the true and false hadiths! It is just a matter of common sense!

While there are many true; authentic hadiths and genuine reports in history, many also are just false or simply fabricated in order to justify the wrong/evil deeds of later tyrant caliphs! So it 's just a matter of what kind of hadiths you should pick. Whether you choose those contradicted in the Holy Qur'an and regard them as genuine hadiths, or choose those in agreement with the Holy Qur'an as genuine and reject those contradictory as simply false and fabricated at best!!

The alleged hadith that Prophet Muhammad ordered those who apostasized to be killed is reminiscient of the early debates of who will succeed the Prophet among muslims after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Many Muslims refused to honor Abu Bakr and want to regard Ali as real calip since he was personally appointed successor by Muhammad.

Yet abu bakr and his supporters regarded those who refused his rule/refuse to pay tax as threat to their power, hence they are all killed and massacred.! To justify this, the later supporters of the caliphate invented the so-called hadiths about "death for the apostates" and those who refuse to pay the tax had been retrospectively branded as apostates. that is why they were killed by abu bkar! By that they have then the idea that it is the teaching of Islam to kill those who apostasized, which is not the case, since it is contradictory to the very teaching of islam which is "there is no compulsion in religion truth stands out clear from error!"

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