Hasan, you can get away with your watered down personal islam only in a kafir country

Submitted by Mohammed (United States), Apr 12, 2007 at 19:33

Hasan wrote:

"Those who will say that Islam as a religion is a cancer to society are simply ignorant and biased. Most of those people who said so are coming from bigot evangelical missionaries who simply want that Islam will banish and want to convert all Muslims to Christianity. In their desperate evangelism who cannot convince educated muslims they resorted to slandering and black propaganda, interpreting verses of the Holy Qur'an and hadith erroneously and out of context."

No Hasan . They are not what you say they are. They are ex-muslims , people like Ali Sina (faihfreedom.org), MA Khan (ialam-watch.org) , Abdullah Arabi (islamreniew.com), Ali Dashti(author of 23 Years),Dr. Ibn w Warraq (author of Why I am not muslim", Wafa sultan (annaqed.com) , Walid Shoebat , Taslima Nasreen (author), Anwar Shaikh (author of Faith and Deception, islam arab imperialism, Ayaan Hirsi Ali(author,ex dutch parliament member) and many more who write on these websites and blog.

They are professors, thinkers, philisophers and writers. They have studied quran, hadiths and siras with an open mind and left it since it is a violent cult of hate and discrimination. They routinely get death threats from people like you because your quran says "kill the renegades" (4.89) ,and your prophet who robbed for living, killed for excitement and raped for fun said

Bukhari:V4B52N260

"The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'"

Please do not hide behind the typical (of watered down islam following muslims of the west) smoke screens of "out of context" and " hadiths are false" excuses. It may work with non muslims, not with knowledgable ex-muslims. You guys believe in ridiculous childish stories and hodge podge of Quran quoted by Mohammed as God's unadulterated word without a single witness but doubt the sira and hadiths which actually happenend as witnessed and chronicled by pious honest believers and historians.

Quran gave permission to rob (8.1), kill (9.5,9.111), rape(4.3,4.24, 23.6, 33.50,70.30) pedophilia (65.4) , incest (33.37) and hadiths and sira confirmrd that Mohammed did all that . Quran also confirmed that Mohammed was a killer (8.67,33.26,3.152,8.17). Yet you guys believe that Mohammed is a role model for all humanity just because quran says it (33.21).

Why do you guys doubt hadiths and siras which are the only sources of what Mohammed did and said and accepted as part of Islam by most muslims , when quran itself raised them to it's own level by saying

"Obey Allah and obey Mohammed (40 times)

"Obeying Allah is obeying Mohammed "(4,80)

If you love Allah follow Mohammed (3.31)

If all the siras and hadiths (which you dont like) are false then what happenend to the true history Hasan?

Hasan, you guys get away with your christianized watered down personal islam and declaration that hadiths are false in a kafir country. In a sharia country you will be lynched by a mob instantly like Mohammed Taha in Sudan and Farag Foda in Egypt. Rashad Khalifa of Arizona (of submitters Islam) could not get away by doubting hadiths even in USA , he was killed by a true muslim.

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